Can an older Hybrid run without its battery after it dies?

Yes, that's a good criterion.

If a person does not do so much highway driving, then the original poster's
point about buying a Hybrid used may be a good one. It's certainly worth
investigating.

I have no idea how the hybrids depreciate. I suppose the pricing features at
Edmunds.com would be as good a place as any to start. Or the original poster
has already checked.

 

i second that. im holding out for the jazz, even though my 98 CX is in
mint shape. i kinda like the scion xA, though, as well. size/space is a
major factor, since my garage is so small. had to buy JDM folding
mirrors to fit in there next to the motorcycle

 

no matter how ya cut it, its still not worth it compared to, say, a
nineties civic hatch.

 

Point made. Given the additional cost of the hybrid, you won't recoup the
difference in gas and tax savings.

 

lack of folding mirrors is one of the things i hate the most about the
north american 96-00 civics - if you've ever been clipped by someone's
mirror while riding your bike, you'll know why. just can't understand
how the law allows it here - folding mirrors are /required/ in most
other markets.

where did you get the folding ones? i'd be interested in a pair.

 

lack of folding mirrors is one of the things i hate the most about the

Folding mirrors are about the first de-content item on the list, when
foreign manufacturers start building in U.S./Canada/Mexico. I think
the whole idea was to allow closer packing of imports on the cargo
ship. No cargo ship involved means no folding mirror is needed.

Still, it is desirable for other reasons. I can't imagine driving so
close to a bicycle that it is an issue. Surely you mean YOU clipped a
stationary car??

I think the Toyota Solara mirrors are funny: They're designed to look
like they fold. They don't.

 

Boy am I glad I got a 94, then. I absolutely LOVE those folding mirrors.
Discourages the local schmuck-teenagers from screwing with my mirrors.

I wouldn't expect drivers to fold 'em in to protect bikers (bicyclists),
though, that's expecting too much. You just gotta be adept/conscious
enough to avoid the mirrors, Jim. ;-) I live in NYC, with its fair share
of narrow streets and insane drivers. Mirrors sticking out are just a
fact of life.

Abe

 

But I don't _want_ a 90's car. I want a 2003 or later.

 

I bet the gist is that if a car with folding mirrors drives by and tags you,
you have a fighting chance if the mirror folds upon itself. With a fixed
mirror you just plain get tagged and hope for the best.

 

That does make more sense, thanks.

 

or the other way around.

if i didnt have folding mirrors on my civic, ida likely taken off the
passenger side one unwillingly, while pulling into the garage.

as for the poster that wanted the JDM part number? the place where i
bought em mysteriously peeled the honda PN labels from the boxes. hmmmm.
i guess its because i likely got overcharged and could have bought the
mirrors online from a dealer for less than the $240 i paid for the pair.

so i went to the garage, and looked at the bottom mount for the drivers
side mirror... it says:

K94
E6 (in circle)
III
014757
02*4757
and some kanji symbols...

and its definately JDM, since the drivers side view is too close for the
car- obviously intended for a RHD application


googling doesnt come up with much

 

unfortunately not. you'd be "surprised" how close some people drive to
bikes.

 

hmm, thanks for that. what's the deal in canada tegger? do they have
the folding ones up there?

 

stationary vehicles are not the problem [unless someone opens a
door...], it's the moving ones that are the issue. i can personally
attest to the fact that folding mirrors give way on impact and leave you
with a fighting chance of staying on the bike. fixed ones just smack
you too hard.

 

I've thought about this for a while, and wonder what a plot of MPG verses
MPH looks like for your Civic LX. Are you getting a measured 37-38 over
some period of time between fillups?

My 2003 Civic Hybrid CVT, for a distance of 60 miles or more:
42 MPG at 80MPH, San Jose to Sacramento, I-680/205/5
50 MPG at 70MPH, San Jose to Benicia, I-680
59 MPG at 60MPH, San Jose to Benicia, I-680
65 MPG at 50MPH, Lake County to Napa County, country road.

 

At the rate the gas price is raising, it might actually save money in
the long run.

 

Only if you do A LOT of in-town driving. If you do more highway driving
than in-town, the increase in mpg over a non-hybrid is not that significant.

 

I know. My civic gets 43 mpg (hwy) and the hybrid gets 46.

It does make economic sense for some people. And there is tax
incentive, but it will end soon.

 

Yikes! Guess I've been lucky. Well, the basic rule in NYC is that you
can do anything on the road as long as you don't hit anyone else. Crazy
drivers we may be, but in general we're pretty good, I think. I have a
hard time saying that about cabbies, truth to tell... they're way crazy,
and it ain't always balanced with skill as in my case. ;-))

 

Point taken--with horror!