Can Anything Stop Toyota?

Hmmmm if a compiler can do 1+2=2

Scott in Florida

 

Hmmmm if a compiler can do 1+2=2

Scott in Florida

 

Thanks. I guess I wouldn't care about being called a bigot if I was one.

\Big"ot*ry\, n. [Cf. F. bigoterie.]
1. The state of mind of a bigot; obstinate and unreasoning
attachment of one's own belief and opinions, with
narrow-minded intolerance of beliefs opposed to them.
2. The practice or tenets of a bigot.

Still, I'm not sure what the bigtry refered to was. Was it agains
"foreing" cars or was it anti-union workers?

If it was about the country of manufacture, that's just stupid, although
you might be tempted to generalize and say the German cars are better
than NA cars, and of course get into a huge flame war. Please don't say
that I said that, it's just an example.

As for the union situation, I would argue that in some cases a unionized
labour force constantly butting heads with management is not a healthy
environment for quality or cost consciousness. Management needs to treat
workers fairly. Labour needs to see the big picture beyond the next pay
cheque or overtime bonus.

 

Thanks. I guess I wouldn't care about being called a bigot if I was one.

\Big"ot*ry\, n. [Cf. F. bigoterie.]
1. The state of mind of a bigot; obstinate and unreasoning
attachment of one's own belief and opinions, with
narrow-minded intolerance of beliefs opposed to them.
2. The practice or tenets of a bigot.

Still, I'm not sure what the bigtry refered to was. Was it agains
"foreing" cars or was it anti-union workers?

If it was about the country of manufacture, that's just stupid, although
you might be tempted to generalize and say the German cars are better
than NA cars, and of course get into a huge flame war. Please don't say
that I said that, it's just an example.

As for the union situation, I would argue that in some cases a unionized
labour force constantly butting heads with management is not a healthy
environment for quality or cost consciousness. Management needs to treat
workers fairly. Labour needs to see the big picture beyond the next pay
cheque or overtime bonus.

 

And scott is in sunny FL

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SENATOR ZELL MILLER DEMOCRAT OF GEORGIA, the nation's most prominent
conservative Democrat, said today he will endorse President Bush for
re-election in 2004 and campaign for him if Bush wishes him to. Miller
said Bush is "the right man at the right time" to govern the country.

The next five years "will determine the kind of world my children and
grandchildren will live in," Miller said in an interview. And he
wouldn't "trust" any of the nine Democratic presidential candidates with
governing during "that crucial period," he said. "This Democrat will
vote for President Bush in 2004."

 

So *you* have more credence than Consumer Reports annual survey on quality and
reliability? They survey 600,000 people each year vs. you. You consider
their reviews and surveys are "laughable" because *you* refuse to face the
truth. CR has 4 million paid subscribers.

You learn nothing at plant tour. It's just auto maker's PR campaign. To get
a real education, go to the library or go back to school. Getting backdoor
treatment at UAW plants only increase your usage of Preparation H.

 

So *you* have more credence than Consumer Reports annual survey on quality and
reliability? They survey 600,000 people each year vs. you. You consider
their reviews and surveys are "laughable" because *you* refuse to face the
truth. CR has 4 million paid subscribers.

You learn nothing at plant tour. It's just auto maker's PR campaign. To get
a real education, go to the library or go back to school. Getting backdoor
treatment at UAW plants only increase your usage of Preparation H.

 

Heh. It sounded like sour grapes to me. They finally, begrudgingly
had to admit that GM was making a car equal to Toyota. Factor in the
incentives and a possible GM credit card rebate, and it comes out a bit
ahead.

Toyota is suffering the same thing Volvo did in the 90s - they were
the safest but everyone else started catching up while they enjoyed
being on top and failed to innovate half as much as in the past.

 

Like I said - so close to having a budget vehicle that could compete with
the Liberty and XTerra. The rest of the car, including the interior are
perfect for a budget off-road thrasher. Too bad it's not good for off-road use.

 

Like I said - so close to having a budget vehicle that could compete with
the Liberty and XTerra. The rest of the car, including the interior are
perfect for a budget off-road thrasher. Too bad it's not good for off-road use.

 

Currently, they still have their own design teams and a full range
of models. This may changfe in a few years, but one reason they
made good vehicles was because they had only one line of products.

Not many are left now, though, that are independant. I do know that
Porsche has stated that they will never be bought out - so that's some
good news. Actually, I suspect they will be making racing engines for
spacecraft in a few hundred years.

 

The main problem I see with the US's auto industry is that they

Floyd, this is very true.

 

The main problem I see with the US's auto industry is that they

Floyd, this is very true.

 

Do you think 600K is a large survey? I don't, not when you
consider over 18,000,000 new vehicles are sold in the US every
year. According to what I saw on TV the other night over a
million people believe in flying saucers.


mike hunt

 

Do you think 600K is a large survey? I don't, not when you

Policitical polls sample a small fraction of a percent of the voting
population, but are accurate to +/- a few percent. If CR samples 600K
people are year (I can't confirm this number but it sounds about right),
then this is very much a stastically valid survey.

- Mark

 

In

CR's automotive division is a handful of evaluators and editors.
They have their biases. They also have their priorities which often
differ from mine. My point is you bless CR with far more credibility
than they deserve.

A visit to an assembly line is not valuable to a person with
underdeveloped engineering or mechanical skills. So, I will note
your projections with that apparent deficiency in mind.

 

In

CR's automotive division is a handful of evaluators and editors.
They have their biases. They also have their priorities which often
differ from mine. My point is you bless CR with far more credibility
than they deserve.

A visit to an assembly line is not valuable to a person with
underdeveloped engineering or mechanical skills. So, I will note
your projections with that apparent deficiency in mind.

 

Very good point.

Also, I stand corrected on the Honda Element's ground clearance. The Honda's
spec is 6.9", not too shabby. Although I don't like the way the gas tank is
mounted.

 

Very good point.

Also, I stand corrected on the Honda Element's ground clearance. The Honda's
spec is 6.9", not too shabby. Although I don't like the way the gas tank is
mounted.

 

If you can find a larger survey, I'll sure be looking into it.