Can Anything Stop Toyota?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by elmo, Nov 11, 2003.

  1. Usually, people who bash CR in automotive forums quickly reveal that
    they know very little about it.
     
    Gordon McGrew, Nov 16, 2003
  2. Usually, people who bash CR in automotive forums quickly reveal that
    they know very little about it.
     
    Gordon McGrew, Nov 16, 2003
  3. elmo

    Philip® Guest

    In
    When I want an opinion from you, I'll give it to you. ;-)
     
    Philip®, Nov 16, 2003
  4. elmo

    Philip® Guest

    In
    When I want an opinion from you, I'll give it to you. ;-)
     
    Philip®, Nov 16, 2003
  5. elmo

    Artfulcodger Guest

    Years ago when I was in the appliance business I would read CR reports and
    just laugh at some of their conclusions.

    Yet having never been in the auto business I have always used CR as
    somewhat of a guide in that field because my knowledge is limited.

    The point here is that when one has knowledge of a subject we usually scoff
    at another persons insight in that area.

    I mean how dare they not agree with me after all I make my living...cut my
    teeth.... studied under.....blah blah blah.

    It's a male ego thing I am sure.

    Holy shit I am starting to sound like my wife!

    The Artful Codger




     
    Artfulcodger, Nov 16, 2003
  6. elmo

    Artfulcodger Guest

    Years ago when I was in the appliance business I would read CR reports and
    just laugh at some of their conclusions.

    Yet having never been in the auto business I have always used CR as
    somewhat of a guide in that field because my knowledge is limited.

    The point here is that when one has knowledge of a subject we usually scoff
    at another persons insight in that area.

    I mean how dare they not agree with me after all I make my living...cut my
    teeth.... studied under.....blah blah blah.

    It's a male ego thing I am sure.

    Holy shit I am starting to sound like my wife!

    The Artful Codger




     
    Artfulcodger, Nov 16, 2003
  7. What part of the appliance business were you in? Did you have access
    to the results of independent lab tests ranking the performance of
    washing machines? Did you have access to repair records for various
    brands? Did you see discrepancies with CR. That doesn't prove CR was
    wrong, but it would be interesting to get an idea of how much
    variability exists. Regardless, it is irrelevant to the average
    person because we outsiders don't have access to that information.
    I would not scoff at an insider who would share general or specific
    information with us. Were you truly an insider? Did you have access
    to confidential information? (Confidential information is typically a
    lot of dry numbers of paper and is seen by maybe 10 to 100 people at
    most. Not to be confused with semi-confidential summaries sent to
    sales staff, etc.) Which washer is the most reliable?
    It is an occupational hazard. ;]
     
    Gordon McGrew, Nov 16, 2003
  8. What part of the appliance business were you in? Did you have access
    to the results of independent lab tests ranking the performance of
    washing machines? Did you have access to repair records for various
    brands? Did you see discrepancies with CR. That doesn't prove CR was
    wrong, but it would be interesting to get an idea of how much
    variability exists. Regardless, it is irrelevant to the average
    person because we outsiders don't have access to that information.
    I would not scoff at an insider who would share general or specific
    information with us. Were you truly an insider? Did you have access
    to confidential information? (Confidential information is typically a
    lot of dry numbers of paper and is seen by maybe 10 to 100 people at
    most. Not to be confused with semi-confidential summaries sent to
    sales staff, etc.) Which washer is the most reliable?
    It is an occupational hazard. ;]
     
    Gordon McGrew, Nov 16, 2003
  9. elmo

    E.R. Guest

    And so it panned out that the following script was sculpted by
    none other than Scott in Fla:
    The equation is valid for verrrrrrry small values of 1... ;}
     
    E.R., Nov 17, 2003
  10. elmo

    E.R. Guest

    And so it panned out that the following script was sculpted by
    none other than Scott in Fla:
    The equation is valid for verrrrrrry small values of 1... ;}
     
    E.R., Nov 17, 2003
  11. elmo

    SoCalMike Guest

    failed to innovate? seems theyre the only ones with the knowhow to build a
    unique hybrid, and make money off of it.
     
    SoCalMike, Nov 17, 2003
  12. elmo

    MikeHunt2 Guest

    The problem it seems is when CR reports on a product of which you
    have knowledge and you KNOW they are full of crap, it can only
    make you wonder how you can believe them on the things on which
    you are not knowledgeable. I stopped subscribing years ago for
    that reason.


    mike hunt



     
    MikeHunt2, Nov 17, 2003
  13. elmo

    Wayne Guest

    There are exceptions to everything. Back in the '60s, I had a 1958
    Plymouth that was a good car. No problems at all for the couple of years I
    owned it. Ask around to some people from that era and find out how many
    can say that!
     
    Wayne, Nov 29, 2003
  14. elmo

    Wayne Guest

    There are exceptions to everything. Back in the '60s, I had a 1958
    Plymouth that was a good car. No problems at all for the couple of years I
    owned it. Ask around to some people from that era and find out how many
    can say that!
     
    Wayne, Nov 29, 2003
  15. elmo

    Philip® Guest

    In
    Do you recall "Introducing the new Swept Wing Dodge" commercials on
    Lawrence Welk Show back in ... oh... what was it 1959? LOL
    --

    * Philip

    "I'm dreaming of a white Christmas,
    Just like the ones I used the ones I used to know"
    -Bing Crosby
     
    Philip®, Nov 30, 2003
  16. elmo

    Philip® Guest

    In
    Do you recall "Introducing the new Swept Wing Dodge" commercials on
    Lawrence Welk Show back in ... oh... what was it 1959? LOL
    --

    * Philip

    "I'm dreaming of a white Christmas,
    Just like the ones I used the ones I used to know"
    -Bing Crosby
     
    Philip®, Nov 30, 2003
  17. elmo

    Artfulcodger Guest


    Dad had a 56 Plymouth hardtop--charcoal grey and pink with push button
    transmission. I believe that was refered to as the "forward look" complete
    with wrap around windshield and tail fins.

    I was the coolest dude at the drive in with that baby. When he would let me
    drive it.
    He was still ticked about the dings I put in his 54 Mercury and the gears I
    ground off on it's standard tranny.
     
    Artfulcodger, Nov 30, 2003
  18. elmo

    Artfulcodger Guest


    Dad had a 56 Plymouth hardtop--charcoal grey and pink with push button
    transmission. I believe that was refered to as the "forward look" complete
    with wrap around windshield and tail fins.

    I was the coolest dude at the drive in with that baby. When he would let me
    drive it.
    He was still ticked about the dings I put in his 54 Mercury and the gears I
    ground off on it's standard tranny.
     
    Artfulcodger, Nov 30, 2003
  19. elmo

    Philip® Guest

    In
    Grey and ....er... um... "rose." LOL

    --

    * Philip

    "I'm dreaming of a white Christmas,
    Just like the ones I used the ones I used to know"
    -Bing Crosby
     
    Philip®, Nov 30, 2003
  20. elmo

    Philip® Guest

    In
    Grey and ....er... um... "rose." LOL

    --

    * Philip

    "I'm dreaming of a white Christmas,
    Just like the ones I used the ones I used to know"
    -Bing Crosby
     
    Philip®, Nov 30, 2003
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