Car eats oil - oil change interval?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by bubbabubbs, Sep 4, 2008.

  1. bubbabubbs

    jim Guest

    You obviously have never poured 10-40 and 10-30 when it is -20F outside. If you
    had you would have noticed that there is a significant visible difference in
    viscosity no matter what the API might say. At that temperature, it makes a
    noticeable difference in engine cranking also.

    -jim
     
    jim, Sep 16, 2008
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  2. bubbabubbs

    Leftie Guest


    I shouldn't have used that example, because the wider the spread in
    viscosity, the more likely you are to find the oil behaving wrong,
    especially with non-synthetics. I never use oil with a 30 weight
    'spread' anymore. 10W-30 seems to be just fine for Summer driving, so
    10W-30 in Summer and 5W-30 in Winter (if the engine isn't worn) is
    probably the best way to go for normal driving.
     
    Leftie, Sep 16, 2008
    #22
  3. bubbabubbs

    Steve Guest

    That's simply not true.
     
    Steve, Sep 16, 2008
    #23
  4. bubbabubbs

    jim Guest

    Why because you read it in a book?
     
    jim, Sep 16, 2008
    #24
  5. bubbabubbs

    Steve Guest


    :)

    No, because that's basically the DEFINITION of the API rating. If
    there's a huge difference in cold pour characteristics, then the oil
    really isn't meeting its API rating. Which, to be fair, is entirely
    possible especially for bargain oils, and high viscosity spread oils.
     
    Steve, Sep 16, 2008
    #25
  6. bubbabubbs

    jim Guest

    So the answer is yes you just read about it. You didn't read very well. The cold
    pour rating is not for -20F. When it is -20 there is a noticeable difference.


    -jim
     
    jim, Sep 16, 2008
    #26
  7. bubbabubbs

    Scott Dorsey Guest

    Ask the manufacturer for a plot of viscosity versus temperature.

    The various API ratings require the viscosity to be in a certain range
    over a certain temperature range. But once you exceed the rated
    temperature range, all bets are off.

    If you buy an API SL grade oil marked "10W-30", you know according to the
    standard that it will be a 10 weight (7Pa) oil at -25'C and that it will be
    a 30 weight (2.9mPa) oil at 150C. But you have no idea what the oil is
    going to do outside of those two points. And when things get really cold
    and really hot, the viscosity improvers get weird sometimes.
    --scott
     
    Scott Dorsey, Sep 16, 2008
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  8. bubbabubbs

    Steve Guest

    Its actually pretty close to -20F, as a matter of fact. Something like
    -15F, -12F. Not far off, certainly no more than 8-10 degrees F. If you'd
    said they differed a lot at -40F, then it might have been a more
    believable statement. For sufficiently cheap and crappy oils.
     
    Steve, Sep 16, 2008
    #28
  9. bubbabubbs

    bubbabubbs Guest

    Thank you, Einstein. But I can't afford more frequent oil changes cuz
    I sent all my $$ to yer motha so she can buy you a new pocket
    protector.
     
    bubbabubbs, Sep 17, 2008
    #29
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