Car studders durring acceleration...

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Rorus33, Dec 12, 2006.

  1. Rorus33

    Rorus33 Guest

    I own a 98 Accord EX 4cyl with 120k miles... I took a long road trip
    about 6,000 miles ago and noticed that durring medium to heavy
    acceleration my car studdered in 2nd and 3rd gear at around 3500-4000
    rpm’s. If I baby it and accelerate with about 1/4 to half throtle
    there is no problem. Anyway, I took it to my mechanic and had the
    trany flushed and refilled. The problem seemed to be solved. Now,
    while on my way to work thismorning it started up again. I just got
    off the on-ramp to the highway, started accelerating into traffic and
    all of a sudden the car hits 3700rpm’s and studders, jolts and slips
    until i take my foot off the throtle and baby it through the gears.
    Does anyone have any suggestions? Fuel filter perhaps?
     
    Rorus33, Dec 12, 2006
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  2. Plug leads?

    SD
     
    Stewart DIBBS, Dec 13, 2006
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  3. It really sounds like a failing spark plug, but it could be plug wires or
    even the distributor cap or rotor. If the plugs are old or are Champion or
    Bosch (even if new), replacement is a good idea. Ditto with the ignition
    tune-up parts. Lotsa experienced people here are adamant about using genuine
    Honda ignition parts (except plugs... NGK are okay). I came around to their
    way of thinking through sad experience.

    Anyway, fixing up the ignition is a great place to start. I suspect it is
    even the answer you are looking for.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Dec 13, 2006
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  4. Rorus33

    Rorus33 Guest

    I don’t know why that thought never crossed my mind. Thanks guys,
    I’ll give it a try.
     
    Rorus33, Dec 13, 2006
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    JXStern Guest

    If the tranny flush worked once, it was probably the tranny.

    My 1999 CL was the same generation as your Accord, and the 4-speed
    auto really sucked as you described from day one. At 30k I had it
    flushed on scheduled maint, and for the first time I could accelerate
    out of cruise without the tranny slipping then downshifting two gears
    instead of one racing the engine, and other crap.

    I suspect *most* Honda products of that period have this problem to
    one extent or another, and drivers baby their cars and don't notice,
    or figure it's the engine computer or other intended behavior, when
    it's really seriously sucky transmission performance.

    The five speeds seem a little more solid now, but after they had to
    fix or replace a couple hundred thousand of them on six-cylinder
    engines, you be the judge.

    The bad trannies are really Honda's dark secret.

    J.
     
    JXStern, Dec 14, 2006
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    motsco_ Guest

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    When you do a drain-n-fill on a Honda automatic it's supposed to be
    three times, or four. You may have only replaced about 1/3 rd of the
    capacity. Be sure to use only Honda Z1, no substitutes. At 120,000 MILES
    and 8 years you owe your tranny a bit of care for sure.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, Dec 14, 2006
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    zardozrocks Guest

    I'm having a very similar problem with a much older Honda (1987
    prelude).

    I'm certainly no expert but in my car it seems to be related to either
    ignition or fuel delivery because it sounds suspiciously like a car
    running out of gas. I have a 5 speed manual transmission which
    reinforces my thinking that it's not related to the tranny. I've had a
    vehicle where the clutch slips and another where the gears are stripped
    and it doesn't feel like that at all. It feels as though the engine is
    just not firing due to lack of fuel or failure to spark.

    I managed to download a shop manual which had a troubleshooting chart.
    The troubleshooting table suggests any number of things could be
    the problem when you have a lack of power at lo/mid/hi RPM
    * fuel injector open or short circuited, stuck injector (they do seem
    to be leaking)
    * faulty fuel pump / fuel pump relay OR poor grounding
    * improper fuel line pressure OR clogged fuel filter
    * manifold absolute pressure sensor - open or short circuited, broken
    or disconnected hose, faulty sensor
     
    zardozrocks, Dec 15, 2006
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