cautionary brake pad tale!

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by jim beam, Apr 15, 2007.

  1. jim beam

    jim beam Guest

    today, for the first time ever, i spun a car. rather embarrassing.
    i've driven all kinds of vehicles in all kinds of conditions, and i've
    never made this mistake before - and believe me, there have been times
    where i've tried! and it was my crx no less - the car with amazing
    cornering. fortunately there was no one hurt, and no damage to the
    vehicle, but here's my analysis.

    cheap low quality front brake pads causing a front-rear brake
    proportioning problem. light braking on a curve caused the rear brakes
    to lock and next thing i knew, my rear was overtaking my front, and
    there was no recovery. if the front brakes had been working in
    proportion, the rear brakes would not have locked, and the vehicle would
    not have spun.

    it's my fault. when i first inspected this vehicle, i noted that the
    rear shoes were original honda, and only part worn. the front pads
    however were some cheesy aftermarket stuff and wearing unevenly. they
    also had some awful anti-squeal shims riveted to the backs which were
    breaking apart. but, they worked, mostly, and priority 1 was getting
    the vehicle smogged and back on the road, so i re-used both sets of
    brake materials, particularly as for the disks, they'd worn an odd
    pattern into the metal, so i didn't want to replace the pads without
    replacing the disks as well.

    and so i smogged the vehicle, and had pretty much forgotten about it.
    fast forward to today, and learning not to ignore something you /know/
    to be a problem!

    moral of the story:
    always use matching brake pad/shoe materials front and rear, preferably
    honda oem. the proportioning valve is set for their use. put in
    different brake materials, and the friction coefficients will be
    different, and the proportioning will be upset. this may not be
    noticeable in ordinary pottering about town and straight line braking,
    but anything slightly above that requirement, like an emergency, and
    suddenly you could be plowing into a tree, or worse, someone's living room.

    honda brake pads ladies and gentlemen! they're very good, they're very
    price competitive, and with them, your car is /very/ much safer.
     
    jim beam, Apr 15, 2007
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  2. jim beam

    jim beam Guest

    i haven't found shimmy to be a problem with these pads, or this car, but
    i have on other vehicles. i find that the proper torque, torque
    sequence, and a little antiseize on the face of the disk mounts after
    they've been craped clean of rust, do wonders. so much so in fact, i've
    completely and permanently cured this problem on my civic after it
    suddenly appeared after a tire shop last had the wheels off.
     
    jim beam, Apr 16, 2007
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  3. jim beam

    oddvark Guest

    sorry for the newbie question, but whats a shimmy?
     
    oddvark, Apr 17, 2007
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  4. jim beam

    Dano58 Guest

    Scary stuff, glad you're okay.

    Dan D
    '07 Ody EX
    Central NJ USA
     
    Dano58, Apr 17, 2007
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  5. jim beam

    jim beam Guest

    maybe shimmy's not the right word, but it's a shuddering effect when
    braking, commonly attributed to "warped rotors". google this group for
    my numerous rants on the subject.
     
    jim beam, Apr 18, 2007
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