Changing Brake fluid Affects Master Cylinder?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Rich, Jun 24, 2005.

  1. Rich

    Rich Guest

    Four days ago I had my 1993 Accord serviced. Among other things, I had
    the brake fluid changed & the brakes inspected. The car has 149,000
    miles on it, the front pads were replaced at 49,000 miles & the rear
    shoes are original. Anyway, I picked the car up on Monday & drove about
    12 miles home & everything was fine. Friday I get back in the car for
    the first time & the brake pedal sinks to the floor. I check the brake
    fluid & it is full. I limp back to the mechanic(who I trust) who tells
    me the master cylinder just happened to go bad. He said the old fluid is
    thicker than new & that may be all the old MC needed to go. He replaced
    the MC & deducted the cost of the fluid change he had just done($247 -
    $75= $172 for new MC installed).
    Anyone ever hear of new brake fluid pushing a 12 year old MC over the edge?
    Thanks,
    Rich
     
    Rich, Jun 24, 2005
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  2. Nope, but a bleed done to full stroke certainly will.
     
    Steve Bigelow, Jun 24, 2005
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  3. Rich

    Rich Guest

    Is it that a bleed should not be done to full stroke or are you saying a
    normal brake bleed will cause an old MC to fail?
    Thanks,
    Rich
     
    Rich, Jun 25, 2005
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  4. Rich

    jim beam Guest

    personally, i don't put too much creedance in the "can't bleed full
    stroke" theory. i've bled master cylinders with pressure bleeders,
    /zero/ stroke, and still had seals disintegrate the next week. my
    opinion is that unless you change the fluid regularly, the fluid gets
    contaminated. this swells the rubbers. these swollen rubbers wear to
    fit the cylinder in the expanded state. when you change to fresh fluid,
    which contains rubber conditioners, the seals shrink slightly, and then
    they start leaking.

    bottom line, if the cylinder's given you 150k, you're doing just fine.
    change it, do another 150k. it's peanuts. next time, make sure you
    flush the brake fluid annually - i'll bet you it lasts a good deal longer.
     
    jim beam, Jun 25, 2005
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  5. Rich

    Rich Guest

    I tend to believe that is what happened. I thought that I had changed
    the fluid at least once before but upon checking of my records, it seems
    that I never did. It seems the only thing the mechanic might have done
    "wrong" was to not warn me of this possibility. Either way, a master
    cylinder replacement was imminent either now or the next time I had
    major brake work done which required bleeding.
    Thanks for your expert assessment.
    Rich
     
    Rich, Jun 25, 2005
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  6. http://tegger.com/hondafaq/mastercylinderreplace/index.html
     
    Michael Pardee, Jun 25, 2005
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