Check Brakes Light

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Rick, Jun 30, 2004.

  1. Rick

    Rick Guest

    Girlfriend has a 1999 Accord V6. Just had the 15,000 maint done,
    including inspection of brakes. (yes, it is a very low mileage vehicle)

    The "check brakes" light comes on & she goes to the dealer. Since
    her brakes are ok, they tell her it is a lamp getting ready to go bad.
    Huh? Never heard such a thing. Anyone else ever hear this?

    Now the "check brakes" light is out, and all seems fine.


    Thanks,

    Rick
     
    Rick, Jun 30, 2004
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  2. Rick

    motsco_ _ Guest

    Dealer is smoking illegal substances. NO CAR HAS A SYSTEM THAT WILL TELL
    YOU WHEN A LAMP IS 'GETTING READY TO GO BAD'.

    The OWNER'S MANUAL tells you that the dash light will come on when you
    do the 'LAMP TEST', when the park brake is on, when the brake fluid is
    low, and when there's a malfunction in the brake circuit. Try topping up
    the brake fluid.

    P.S. Send a letter to Honda and tell them about this dealer of yours...

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Jun 30, 2004
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  3. Rick

    w_tom Guest

    She probably misinterpreted what he said. IOW if one of the
    brake light bulbs is failing, then it draws less current.
    Unlike most cars, the Accord detects too little current drawn
    by the light bulb and notifies the dashboard. Was it the
    brake light, or was it the light bulb monitoring circuit? Big
    difference which is why humans must be very careful to use
    exact words.
     
    w_tom, Jun 30, 2004
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  4. Rick

    Rick Guest

    That seems more believable. Nevertheless, she often does get
    things mixed up and probably did misunderstand the guy. I will
    check all her lamps, but she called a little while ago and said she has
    not seen the "brake light" come back on again. The dealer is one of
    the most reputable in the Southeast, Ed Voyles Honda.

    Rick
     
    Rick, Jun 30, 2004
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  5. Rick

    Keefer 29365 Guest

    my brake light was on the other day but all the lights were working, i
    think the bulb was just lose, after i took it out and put it back in the
    light went off and has not came back on so far
     
    Keefer 29365, Jul 1, 2004
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  6. Rick

    motsco_ _ Guest

    =======================

    If the bulb comes loose, or if you've put it back in crooked, it will
    never come on again. Your manual tells you how to test ALL your dash
    lamps at the same time. Read my previous post, and your manual for
    continued safety.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Jul 1, 2004
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  7. Rick

    w_tom Guest

    No reason to check her brake lights. If any brake light
    bulb goes bad, then a dashboard warning panel reports that
    failure as explained in the owner's manual. Ask her which
    indicator light illuminated on the dash board. Warning light
    for "brake system failure" is completely different from the
    warning for a "failing brake light bulb". This warning system
    that reports failing brake light bulbs has been a standard
    function even on pre-1980 Accords.
     
    w_tom, Jul 1, 2004
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  8. Rick

    w_tom Guest

    Did you check each rear brake light bulb for darkened
    interior glass - including the center brake light? Filament
    vaporized onto inside of glass indicates that bulb is about to
    fail; a condition detected by the dash board warning system.
    Bulb has not yet failed but the warning system detects a
    future failure; warns driver of the impending bulb burnout.

    Are you saying you removed brake light warning bulb from
    dash board because it was on? Why? If bulb is loose, then it
    would not be on contantly. That bulb is on constant because
    something is wrong with the rear brake lights. Does not
    matter if you see all brake lights on. What matters is the
    warning system detects the problem and you have not yet found
    it. Now you may have also damaged the brake light warning
    bulb in dash board - if that is the bulb you removed. Cannot
    be exactly sure which bulb you have described due to
    insufficient wording.
     
    w_tom, Jul 1, 2004
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  9. Rick

    Chip Stein Guest

    try asking about the service bulletin on the brake light on, it
    describes replacing the master cylinder strainer and float. ed voyles
    should know about this.
    Chip
     
    Chip Stein, Jul 2, 2004
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  10. Rick

    Rick Guest

    Thanks for all the feedback, appreciate it very much. Finally got
    girlfriend's car on her day off and went over it. Appears all it was is
    the level in her brake fluid reservoir (I hope). Filled it to the max.
    line,
    and she says, so far, the brake light has stayed off. The fluid level
    was almost down to the min. line, but not quite. Probably the movement
    of the car while driving caused the light to go on & off. I am going to
    monitor the fluid level for any possible leaks in her brake system.


    Rick
     
    Rick, Jul 2, 2004
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  11. Rick

    curly12 Guest

    the most usual cause of the reservoir being low is the brake pads and or
    shoes are worn out.

    The dealer claims the breakes are ok, but a quick check of the pads might be
    in order. with 15000 miles, I would suspect 20-30% remaining on the front
    pads.

    But I could be wrong.
     
    curly12, Jul 2, 2004
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  12. Rick

    motsco_ _ Guest

    =====================

    Rick,

    Over the years, as the brake pads are 'consumed', the level of the fluid
    slowly goes down . . If nobody checks the level, it suddenly looks as
    if there's a leak. No, just normal usage. That's why it's a good thing
    there's an 'idiot light' to warn the owner before air would get sucked
    into the system. Oil change places are supposed to check this kind of stuff.

    The pads will announce when they're shot too. Metal tabs will start
    scraping on the disks when the pads are reaching the end of thier lives.
    It's not an excuse to never get things inspected, but it's a good
    back-up plan for people who don't. :)

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Jul 2, 2004
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  13. Rick

    STS Guest

    I had a similar problem in my car , an older model ,
    there was water getting inside the break lights connector trough a gap .
    This problem occurred when it was raining and continued like that for days
    in a row
    after the rain.Dealer replaced the bulb but didn't check the connectors.
     
    STS, Jul 3, 2004
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  14. Rick

    Brian Smith Guest

    That would be pretty hard use, to have that percentage remaining after that
    small amount of mileage. I just replaced my original front pads on my '01
    Accord V6, Automatic with 113,800 km (70,556 miles), mostly city driving.
    They were down to 30 % remaining.
     
    Brian Smith, Jul 3, 2004
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