check engine light - evap

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by radar, Aug 29, 2005.

  1. radar

    radar Guest

    I have a 2000 accord and keep getting the check engine light, have had it
    checked 3 times and each time get the evap code. Does anyone know of any
    common problems regarding evap on 200- accord 4cyl? I've had the gas cap
    changed, 2 bypass valves leading to the tank, and 1 purge control solenoid -
    and still check engine light. Anyone familiar with such a problem?
     
    radar, Aug 29, 2005
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  2. Perhaps the gas cap is not on tight enough? When putting the cap back on,
    it should click a few times. Otherwise, a loose gas cap will trigger this
    error code.

    Also, is the replacement cap OEM or aftermarket? Make sure it is OEM.
     
    High Tech Misfit, Aug 29, 2005
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  3. radar

    bearman Guest


    I had a 2000 Odyssey that had that problem. Turned out to be the gas tank
    filler neck.
     
    bearman, Aug 30, 2005
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    If somebody is intentionally overfilling it, you can suck a bunch of
    liquid fuel into the evap canister, and a CODE will be set. I think it's
    in the Owner's Manual.

    'Curly'
     
    'Curly Q. Links', Aug 30, 2005
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  5. radar

    Guest Guest

    what are the OBD 2 codes for it? i've had problems with EVAP on my
    accord 99 4 cyl lx. But those were easy fixed. Depending on your
    codes will determine which parts to replace. Like P1300 or P1301...
    These codes are for fuel injectors or oxygen sensor that sometimes
    fail. More so for the fuel injectors. Also check out if your EVAP
    control is messed up. It's a $60 part here in the US straight from
    Honda. Don't know how much it is for them to replace it since I
    brought it to a friend I know.
     
    Guest, Aug 30, 2005
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  6. radar

    radar Guest

    The OBDII code was (and still is) P1457 for evap leak. I don't have access
    to any list of codes so I have to assume that it really is evap? Is that a
    broad category or jsut a few possible parts?
     
    radar, Aug 31, 2005
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    Another hint . . Always quote the CODE, it's on your invoices. If it's
    not there, get it from the servicing dealer's computer. You paid for it.
    Then run it through google.com, and find out what it (actually) means.

    'Curly'
     
    'Curly Q. Links', Aug 31, 2005
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  8. The ODB-II site[1] will translate SAE (generic) codes, and codes for
    US manufacturers. It doesn't do Honda, unfortunately; I don't know
    offhand if there's a website for Honda's manufacturer codes.
    You're getting P1457:

    P: powertrain DTC (diagnostic trouble code)
    1: manufacturer-specific code (0 would be SAE)
    4: auxiliary (ie not directly related to combustion) emissions
    57: the specific fault code

    P0457 is the SAE code for evaporative leak, so I suspect P1457 is
    essentially the same issue.
    Pretty much the parts from the gas cap to the tank, I think. So it
    could be the cap or the filler tube, or the sensor (I assume there's
    a sensor of some sort that detects an evaporative leak - I've never
    looked into it).

    Other parts of the EVAP system are a canister that traps vapors and a
    purge valve and line that allow vapors to enter the engine to be
    burned. I think those would have different codes, though.


    1. http://www.obdii.com/codes.asp

    --
    Michael Wojcik

    Most people believe that anything that is true is true for a reason.
    These theorems show that some things are true for no reason at all,
    i.e., accidentally, or at random. -- G J Chaitin
     
    Michael Wojcik, Sep 1, 2005
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  9. radar

    bearman Guest

    P1457 Leak Detected In EVAP Control System (Acura, Honda)


    from http://autorepair.about.com/cs/troubleshooting/l/bl_obd_14.htm
     
    bearman, Sep 1, 2005
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  10. radar

    SoCalMike Guest

    hows your gas cap? stock? aftermarket? old?

    if it doesnt seal well, and its not tightened 10 "clicks" it could
    trigger an evap code.
     
    SoCalMike, Sep 1, 2005
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  11. radar

    radar Guest

    Hi Mike, it's actually a new gas cap. After I had changed the purge control
    solenoid and the 2 bypass valves(at the dealer) put on a new gas cap (yes
    it's honda and not aftermarket), cleared the code at the dealer and a day
    and a half later the light came back on. Brang new cap I only tight about 5
    clicks or so.
     
    radar, Sep 2, 2005
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  12. radar

    Guest Guest

    i don't think it is the gas cap. it could be a sensor module in the
    evap canister. since i can't hear what your car sounds like i can't
    really tell. I do know that i got that code before and you need to fix
    that asap or you might end up getting codes p0300. I believe the part
    you need to replace should be on the fuel tank side, driver side
    beneath the passenger door. That is the location of the evap sensor
    controls. it's a small piece about $60US from a honda dealer. I know
    because that's how much I paid. before $20 for labor. Basically it's a
    leak in a valve down their that needs to be replaced cause the fuel
    isn't sending to the front of the car. i wouldn't be surprised if after
    you fix this that you would get other codes. If i ever find the part
    that you need i'll post it,
     
    Guest, Sep 2, 2005
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  13. radar

    TeGGeR® Guest


    P0442 and P0456 are small evap leaks. P0457 is a loose gas cap. Those are
    mandated by the EPA, and are common to all makes and models.

    Your code is a non-mandated "enhanced" code. Honda decided to put it in
    there themselves.
    P1456 is an evap leak having to do with the /fuel tank system/.
    P1457 is an evap leak having to do with the /charcoal canister system/.

    You may have a damaged line or something. Has the car ever been in a
    collision?
     
    TeGGeR®, Sep 2, 2005
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  14. radar

    TeGGeR® Guest


    It has nothing to do with your gas cap. That would be code P0457.

    See my other message.
     
    TeGGeR®, Sep 2, 2005
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  15. radar

    radar Guest

    Ok, I'll go with the suggestion of:
    to your question about the damage - no it hasn't been in an accident before
    that I know of. I got the car when it had only 23,000KM on it and now a year
    and half later I'm at 65,000km when this all started.
     
    radar, Sep 2, 2005
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  16. radar

    andrew45 Guest

    help on oxygen content , what does it mean? can it be fix by cleaning it or
    spraying with brake cleaner?
     
    andrew45, Sep 6, 2005
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  17. radar

    TeGGeR® Guest


    Make?
    Model?
    Year?
    Error code number encountered?

    We're not mind-readers here, you know.
     
    TeGGeR®, Sep 6, 2005
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  18. radar

    bearman Guest

    The OP said it was a 2000 Accord.
     
    bearman, Sep 6, 2005
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    WAY too many details . . information overload. All you've told us is
    your name.

    'Curly'
     
    'Curly Q. Links', Sep 6, 2005
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  20. radar

    TeGGeR® Guest



    He did? My news provided must have dropped that post, becuase all I see is
    what I replied to.

    In any case, he has not given the exact error code.
     
    TeGGeR®, Sep 6, 2005
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