CHOKE on this!

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Philip, Jan 5, 2005.

  1. Philip

    Huw Guest

    Arsehole [may I call you Arsehole?], what exactly have you posted about
    exhaust pollution from diesel exhaust in this string? I ask this because the
    OP had a comparison of this with cigarette smoke but the thread drifted
    somewhat to one side. Thing is, I have not seen one post from you that has
    been on topic. So why comment and criticise at all except to TROLL. Please
    desist immediately dear Arsehole, because you do tend to stink worse than
    either diesel exhaust or cigarette smoke.

    Wipe yourself on the way out.

    Huw
     
    Huw, Jan 8, 2005
  2. Philip

    Philip Guest

    The OP really set a provocative bit of bait, didn't he!
     
    Philip, Jan 8, 2005
  3. Philip

    Marvin Guest

    Directly inhaled, I agree. But second-hand tobacco smoke is something else.
     
    Marvin, Jan 8, 2005
  4. Philip

    Philip Guest

    Second-hand smoke is the same thing only diluted. ;-) So are you
    comparing second-hand smoke at 10 feet with a new diesel car exhaust at 10
    feet?
     
    Philip, Jan 8, 2005
  5. Philip

    StingRay Guest

    Phew, (May I call you Phew?) you remind us all of that old saying: "You can
    always tell an Englishman . . . but not much!" It is ironic that someone
    British (the keepers of the English language) would post such gutteral
    language in a public NG. We tend to forget that even ole England has its
    ghettos. Crawl back under your slime covered rock. Phew! I can still smell
    the stench. ;-)
     
    StingRay, Jan 8, 2005
  6. Philip

    Somebody Guest

    It compared particulate matter. It didn't compare carcinogens, or other
    substances such as CO that are present in diesel exhaust, making it
    potentially fatal in moderate doses. To say that particulate matter is the
    only polution worth considering is a bit narrow minded, but the data is
    probably accurate as presented. You just have to look past it to get the
    whole story.

    -Russ.
     
    Somebody, Jan 8, 2005
  7. Philip

    Philip Guest

    CO (carbon monoxide) is quite present in cig smoke. CO is quite present in
    pre-catalyst gasoline exhaust but nearly non existant in diesel exhaust.
     
    Philip, Jan 8, 2005
  8. Philip

    Huw Guest

    Dear Arsehole. Pot, kettle, black. You'll have to do better than that. And
    yes, some of us Brits do have a certain artistic and colourful command of
    our mother tongue. You, on the other hand, are just a bore. A festering
    stinking, puke inducing one at that. Far worse than diesel exhaust. [just to
    keep on-topic].

    Huw
     
    Huw, Jan 8, 2005
  9. Philip

    Huw Guest

    That's what comes of multiple crossposting off-topic stuff indiscriminately.
    At least there was some car content in it I suppose. Arsewipe has not
    mentioned any vehicle even once AFAICS.

    Huw
     
    Huw, Jan 8, 2005
  10. Philip

    Philip Guest

    Hardly indiscriminant. That copy/paste header took several seconds to
    accomplish! LOL

    I just want to know if cigarette exhaust should be classified similar to
    biodiesel exhaust since they both orginate from plants. (staying marginally
    on topic)
     
    Philip, Jan 8, 2005
  11. Philip

    Huw Guest

    Absolutely correct and AFAIK diesel exhaust is no more carcinogenic than
    that proven to be in cigarette smoke. No arsenic either.
    In fact Peugeot have just launched a diesel range with effectively zero
    particulate emission. I have not heard of such a clean cigarette.

    Huw
     
    Huw, Jan 8, 2005
  12. Philip

    Full_Name Guest


    Thanks for the link. Now to find a way to import such a vehicle...
     
    Full_Name, Jan 9, 2005
  13. What's the difference between a good nun and a bad nun?

    A good nun says "Amen".

    A bad nun says "Ah...men!"

    DAS
     
    Dori A Schmetterling, Jan 9, 2005
  14. "Hovel in your element"?

    "Revel"?

    DAS
    --
    For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
    ---

    [...]
    [...]
     
    Dori A Schmetterling, Jan 10, 2005
  15. Just for my edification, Huw, are you actually English or Welsh? ... :)

    DAS
    --
    For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
    ---

     
    Dori A Schmetterling, Jan 10, 2005
  16. Ah man, why give this goofball a clue.? A recent study showed that the
    people the least likely to recognize incompetence and stupidity are
    incompetent stupid ones. Think how much more enjoyable this knucklehead is
    when he thinks he's being witty, rather than understanding he's quite
    dimwitted.

    Geez....some people kill all the fun :^)
     
    Bradburn Fentress, Jan 10, 2005
  17. Philip

    Marvin Guest

    Have you ever been behind a car or truck with a diesel engine that needs a tuneup? Did you notice the heavy smoke? Rather
    common, isn't it? Is that like second-hand tobacco smoke?
     
    Marvin, Jan 10, 2005
  18. Philip

    Huw Guest

    Welsh and British.

    Huw
     
    Huw, Jan 10, 2005
  19. Philip

    Huw Guest

    Depends which Country you are in and how old the vehicle. Older vehicles
    were built to different standards.
    As for heavy smoke, then older worn petrol engines are the worse stinkers of
    all, after 1970's petrol cars ['pre cat' over here]. Then come older diesels
    and especially buses. Buses are particularly pungent which is ironic since
    they commonly work in towns where a clean and neutral exhaust is most
    important.

    Huw
     
    Huw, Jan 10, 2005
  20. Philip

    Philip Guest

    At 70 years, and a being a retired line driver, there isn't anything I have
    NOT been behind at some point. LOL

    I have seen plenty of drivers in truck stops whose cigarette or pipe smoke
    could match that of a good running early 1980's Oldsmobile (choke). The
    frequency of diesels belching smoke is the exception these days.
     
    Philip, Jan 10, 2005
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