Civic 97 eats oil. Why? What to do?

Discussion in 'Civic' started by Viktor, Oct 8, 2004.

  1. Viktor

    Viktor Guest

    Hi everybody,
    I bought used '97 Civic CX 2-door hatchback two years ago and have
    noticed that the engine eats the oil signigicantly (3000 miles
    decreased the oil level by half). Otherwise it runs great, just passed
    the emission test.
    Is my engine on its way out?
    Is there some inexpensive way to correct it?
    If engine dies, how much could it cost to replace or repair the
    engine?

    Thanks a lot!

    Viktor
     
    Viktor, Oct 8, 2004
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  2. Viktor

    E. Meyer Guest

    What do you mean "decreased the oil level by half"? Halfway between "add"
    and "full" on the dipstick, or disappears off the stick completely?

    If its just down half a quart (between add and full on the dipstick), its
    fine.

    If it is literally using half the oil in it in 3000 miles (which would only
    be down 2 quarts), it is still nominally within spec. Check it more often
    and whenever it drops below the "add" line on the dipstick, put in one
    quart.
    Not enough info here. How many miles on it? Are you seeing a puff of blue
    smoke when you drive it? Does it have any other problems?
    Probably not.
    If the engine dies from oil starvation, you can pretty much just throw it
    away.
     
    E. Meyer, Oct 8, 2004
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  3. Viktor

    Caroline Guest

    After 3000 miles, is the oil still above the low mark on the dipstick?

    About how much oil are you adding every 3000 miles? If it's less than a quart, I
    don't think there's a major problem.

    Check the outside of the engine from beneath the valve cover to beneath the oil
    pan gasket. Do you see any oil on the outside of the engine?

    How is the car's fuel mileage, and when was the last time the PCV valve was
    changed?

    A failed (or failing) PCV valve may cause leakage past oil seals and low fuel
    mileage. Replacing the PCV valve at least every 60k miles often pays off.

    Also, is the coolant reservoir level steady?
    How many miles are on this Honda?

    Caroline
    91 Civic, 158k miles, still 40+ mpg
     
    Caroline, Oct 8, 2004
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  4. Viktor

    SoCalMike Guest

    have a compression check done.
    check/adjust the valves.
    check for leaks.
     
    SoCalMike, Oct 8, 2004
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  5. Viktor

    Viktor Guest

    Guys, thanks a lot for your responses.

    Here are the details that I failed to mention.
    1. My Honda Civic CX 97 has 160 000 miles on it.
    2. After I changed the oil last time (and the oil level was above
    "Full" line directly after changing), the oil level has dropped to
    BELOW the "Add" line after I drove 3000-3500 miles.
    3. Other then the drop in oil level I don't have other concerns. The
    milage is great (5.9 L/100 km - I am in Canada), no blue smok, just
    passed my emission test recently.
    4. No leak of oil detected anywhere.
    5. Don't know what PCV valve is, will find out.
    6. When I detected that the oil level is less then "Add" mark, I
    poured about 1L of oil (I guess, about 1 quart) and it's full again.

    Thank you very much for all your help.

    Viktor
     
    Viktor, Oct 8, 2004
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  6. Viktor

    E. Meyer Guest

    It sounds like its OK - Honda considers a quart (liter) in one thousand
    miles normal consumption.
     
    E. Meyer, Oct 8, 2004
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  7. Viktor

    KWW Guest

    I wouldn't fill it "above" the full line, though... and wait when you check
    it to let the oil drain back into the pan. If you check it right after
    running you might get a reading that is a little lower than it really should
    be.
     
    KWW, Oct 9, 2004
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  8. The hard decision is what to do about the timing belt. If you don't
    know if/when it was replaced, you might want to do that now. I think
    Honda recommended changing it every 90K miles so even if it was done
    on time it is coming due again. It is kind of expensive (labor) and
    most people replace the water pump at the same time. Use Honda parts.

    I agree that your oil consumption is not a problem. Just check/add
    every 1000 miles or so.
     
    Gordon McGrew, Oct 9, 2004
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  9. Viktor

    SoCalMike Guest

    pretty much normal for a "mature" engine like yours. the PCV is worth a
    shot tho.
     
    SoCalMike, Oct 9, 2004
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  10. Viktor

    JM Guest

    Honda do tend to burn oil at relatively low mileage. Doesn't mean a
    thing, but is an inconvenience to keep checking and adding.

    If it really bugs you, try a Nissan next time, particularly Maxima.
    They generally have no noticeable oil useage, even at your mileage.

    JM
     
    JM, Oct 9, 2004
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  11. Viktor

    KWW Guest

    Timing belt/water pump is not that hard to do... if you get the tools and
    parts in advance and have a weekend to spare (and don't have a Neighborhood
    Gestapo organization which forbids you to work on your car). It should cost
    you about $250 for all the belts (PTO, timing), water pump, and oil seals.
    Since the Civic does not have balance shafts (I believe) it should be even
    easier!
     
    KWW, Oct 9, 2004
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