civic acceleration question

Discussion in 'Civic' started by Ritesh, Jul 6, 2005.

  1. Ritesh

    Ritesh Guest

    I have a '96 civic EX auto with 130K miles on it. While pressing on
    the gas pedal from a standstill, the car accelerates fine. However,
    while cruising around 60mph, I slow down to 30mph by braking and then
    quickly press on the gas. I noticed that the car seems to respond very
    slowly. Meaning that no matter how hard I press on the gas, it takes
    its own sweet time.

    Is the car behaving normally? Or could there be some problem (other
    than the driver)?

    Thanks for the help.
     
    Ritesh, Jul 6, 2005
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  2. Ritesh

    motsco_ _ Guest


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    You are saying your automatic tranny isn't downshifting to compensate
    for the lower speed? If it's a manual tranny, gear down. Read the manual
    about the allowable rev / speeds for each gear. You can rev the heck out
    of it.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Jul 6, 2005
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  3. Ritesh

    Pars Guest

    Assuming it's not a transmission defect (and it doesn't sound like one),
    your right food need to be heavy enough on the accelerator, to induce a
    downshift. The downshift should be noticeable since it'll probably skip down
    two gears (which is not a wise move if you've got jittery passengers).
    Otherwise, you'll just have to put up with the lackluster power at the low
    rpms (..what do you expect from a 1.6L engine that loaded down with an auto
    tranny?).

    The standard transmission does a much better job at simulating a big
    displacement engine (...displacement equates to more torque which means more
    power for passing without having to downshift) because of the ability to
    manually select the appropriate gears (and usually there is more gears to
    work with). The 'Tiptronic' is clutchless solution that allows for manual
    shifting, but there's only a few good ones out there (VW's DSG transmission
    promises to be above average). Contrary to general consensus, I still feel a
    manual transmission on a small car is a better setup then a 'clutchless
    shift', but only on the streets (appose to the racetrack where is necessary
    to rapidly brake and downshift at the same time)

    Pars
     
    Pars, Jul 7, 2005
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  4. Ritesh

    E Meyer Guest

    The transmission is not downshifting enough. Most automatics have a range
    where they just don't respond the way you want, either they give too much,
    or not enough. The automatic they used in '96 is optimized to stay in the
    higher gear too long (for mileage). Try moving the selector to D3 when you
    do this and you will get more response out of it.
     
    E Meyer, Jul 7, 2005
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  5. Ritesh

    jim beam Guest

    dude, you're pretty down on the auto aren't you? thing is, with the
    honda transmission at any rate, there's really not much "loss" once the
    lockup clutch is engaged. the torque converter is lighter than some
    standard flywheels, so there's no "loss" there. the gears are not
    "lossy" planetary gears like most automatics - they're basically the
    same as a standard transmission, only with a clutch pack replacing the
    synchro. the only place where there is "loss" is in the oil pump, but
    even then, with electronic [solenoid] control, there's not a huge
    problem there either. this shows in the fuel consumption figures,
    especially for the newer automatics with better electronic control of
    their shift patterns.

    there /is/ for most people, a difference in performance, but again,
    that's more a function of shift pattern than suffering the effect of
    "loss". with the older versions, you can adjust the throttle cable to
    give a much more sporty shift and to ensure it red lines before shifting
    [you /must/ floor the pedal]. with the post 99's, it'll red line
    without flooring, depending on what it learns of your shifting preferences.
     
    jim beam, Jul 7, 2005
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  6. Ritesh

    TeGGeR® Guest


    One thing I've seen is bunched-up floor mats, or mats that are too thick.

    If the floor mats have bunched up thick enough, they can prevent the pedal
    from being pushed down far enough to induce a downshift.

    This is also a safety issue, as the gas pedal can become hooked under the
    bunches and stick on.
     
    TeGGeR®, Jul 7, 2005
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  7. My 2005 Accord Hybrid does the same thing. Takes it one to two seconds
    to downshift from 5th to 3rd. The speedometer actually drops sometimes
    when I stomp on the gas. I don't think Honda makes very good automatics.
     
    Kevin McMurtrie, Jul 7, 2005
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  8. Ritesh

    Pars Guest

    I respect the fact that the newer auto transmissions are more efficient (and
    smarter) than the older ones. But, they take away a degree of control that
    can only be had from a manual system. I currently have two 96-00 Civics
    (same model) but one is an Automatic and the other is Standard. I feel
    crippled when I'm driving the Automatic. On those rare occasions, when I
    force myself into the Automatic, it's because I plan on getting wasted (or
    similarly crippled...), in which case my wife (who doesn't drive Standard)
    would be the designated driver. Also, I've noticed that my Standard equipped
    car returns better mileage then the posted rates, while the Automatic is
    hard pressed to simulate the mileage rating posted by the manufactures.

    Pars
     
    Pars, Jul 8, 2005
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