Civic alternator problem? --- Need an advice

Discussion in 'Civic' started by Agent Smith, Sep 29, 2003.

  1. Agent Smith

    Agent Smith Guest

    My audio has been acting strange. When I turn on my CD player (which
    was installed by Honda) it starts to "fade away" with a distorsion.
    It's like when you run a tape player or a CD player off of batteries,
    and the batteries discharge then music gets distorted.

    I'd turn the CD player off, then back on after a while and it would
    play Ok for like 10 seconds but then distorsion creeps in again and it
    quickly dies to the point that you can't hear anything.

    Now, I had the battery checked, and it was ok. Is this the alternator?
    Is it just not charging? If this is the case, what are other symptoms
    and how do I make sure the alternator is at fault here?

    Car info: Civi 97, 60K miles


    Thanks for any insight!
     
    Agent Smith, Sep 29, 2003
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  2. Agent Smith

    BillW Guest

    It is your CD player. If the alternator was at fault the battery would not
    charge and the lights would be dim and the heater/ac fan would be slow, etc,
    etc.
     
    BillW, Sep 29, 2003
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  3. Agent Smith

    BillW Guest

    It is your CD player. If the alternator was at fault the battery would not
    charge and the lights would be dim and the heater/ac fan would be slow, etc,
    etc.
     
    BillW, Sep 29, 2003
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  4. Agent Smith

    Koji San Guest

    I'd reflow all the radio solder joints, especially the larger capacitors.

    Detailed explanation: Remember in the old days when a kid accidentally
    kicked a wire off your tube radios and the audio slowly fades away in ten
    seconds. The same capacitor that powers the unit powers the audio.

    I believe within the audio stage of your equipment the capacitor looses the
    power that
    charges it and fades as you turn in on. I believe your pre-amp or amp did
    not detect a source (tape, radio, etc) that has been switched on or the
    solder joints are bad, and not provide enough continuous current. But
    charges itself very slowly and dies under load.

    To find this capacitor by intuition, try this. For example, If a capacitor
    discharges when you turn it on then that means you can find it by testing
    the
    voltages on each capacitor before and after near the audio area. The audio
    area has lots of capacitors and a large IC. I'd found mine which someone
    knocked the capacitor around several times and loosen the joints. I'd glued
    it down.
    Koji
     
    Koji San, Sep 30, 2003
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  5. Agent Smith

    Koji San Guest

    I'd reflow all the radio solder joints, especially the larger capacitors.

    Detailed explanation: Remember in the old days when a kid accidentally
    kicked a wire off your tube radios and the audio slowly fades away in ten
    seconds. The same capacitor that powers the unit powers the audio.

    I believe within the audio stage of your equipment the capacitor looses the
    power that
    charges it and fades as you turn in on. I believe your pre-amp or amp did
    not detect a source (tape, radio, etc) that has been switched on or the
    solder joints are bad, and not provide enough continuous current. But
    charges itself very slowly and dies under load.

    To find this capacitor by intuition, try this. For example, If a capacitor
    discharges when you turn it on then that means you can find it by testing
    the
    voltages on each capacitor before and after near the audio area. The audio
    area has lots of capacitors and a large IC. I'd found mine which someone
    knocked the capacitor around several times and loosen the joints. I'd glued
    it down.
    Koji
     
    Koji San, Sep 30, 2003
    #5
  6. Not to mention that the car wouldn't start.
     
    Phillip Weston, Sep 30, 2003
    #6
  7. Not to mention that the car wouldn't start.
     
    Phillip Weston, Sep 30, 2003
    #7
  8. Agent Smith

    Agent Smith Guest

    Looks like I found the answer to this puzzle. I had a repar shop in my
    neighborhood load test my battery. It turns out the battery is in perfect
    shape. It's the alternator that is not charging all the way. :( I'm glad
    it's charging at last partially or I'd be stuck big time by now. If I'm not
    mistaken, CD consumes much more power than headlights which is why I didn't
    suspect the alternator in the first place. I wonder if it isn't a little too
    soon for an alternator to go dead at only 60K on a Honda...

    I guess replacing the alternator is the next step. Do you guys know a good
    place on the web to buy an alternator?

    Thank you all for input!
     
    Agent Smith, Sep 30, 2003
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  9. Agent Smith

    Agent Smith Guest

    Looks like I found the answer to this puzzle. I had a repar shop in my
    neighborhood load test my battery. It turns out the battery is in perfect
    shape. It's the alternator that is not charging all the way. :( I'm glad
    it's charging at last partially or I'd be stuck big time by now. If I'm not
    mistaken, CD consumes much more power than headlights which is why I didn't
    suspect the alternator in the first place. I wonder if it isn't a little too
    soon for an alternator to go dead at only 60K on a Honda...

    I guess replacing the alternator is the next step. Do you guys know a good
    place on the web to buy an alternator?

    Thank you all for input!
     
    Agent Smith, Sep 30, 2003
    #9
  10. Agent Smith

    David L Guest

    Buy the Honda alternator. I'm on my 3rd aftermarket alternator in four
    years. Kept telling myself I may not have the car that much longer, etc.
    etc. etc. It's been between 75k miles for those alternators. Needless to
    say, I'm kicking myself in the ass for not getting the oem alternator. If
    there is a shop that can replace the brushes in your current alternator that
    may be the way to go.

    If you want to buy the oem alternator online, I've dealt with both
    www.hparts.com and www.hondaautomotiveparts.com . hparts is a bit cheaper
    but the other one has an excellent web site with diagrams of the parts.
    Hope this helps!

    Good luck,
    -Dave
     
    David L, Sep 30, 2003
    #10
  11. Agent Smith

    David L Guest

    Buy the Honda alternator. I'm on my 3rd aftermarket alternator in four
    years. Kept telling myself I may not have the car that much longer, etc.
    etc. etc. It's been between 75k miles for those alternators. Needless to
    say, I'm kicking myself in the ass for not getting the oem alternator. If
    there is a shop that can replace the brushes in your current alternator that
    may be the way to go.

    If you want to buy the oem alternator online, I've dealt with both
    www.hparts.com and www.hondaautomotiveparts.com . hparts is a bit cheaper
    but the other one has an excellent web site with diagrams of the parts.
    Hope this helps!

    Good luck,
    -Dave
     
    David L, Sep 30, 2003
    #11
  12. Agent Smith

    a Guest

    i have a used alternator for sale from a 96 civic

    i took it out because i thought the bearings were gone (i had a squeel when i
    revved) and replaced it, turned out to be the A/C tensioner pully

    anyways, the alt. has about 60k on it and worked great when i took it out.


    $50 plus shipping

    email me, i8urv8 at hotmail.com
     
    a, Oct 2, 2003
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  13. Agent Smith

    a Guest

    i have a used alternator for sale from a 96 civic

    i took it out because i thought the bearings were gone (i had a squeel when i
    revved) and replaced it, turned out to be the A/C tensioner pully

    anyways, the alt. has about 60k on it and worked great when i took it out.


    $50 plus shipping

    email me, i8urv8 at hotmail.com
     
    a, Oct 2, 2003
    #13
  14. Agent Smith

    Agent Smith Guest

    Thank you for the offer. A neighborhood shop ended up replacing my old
    alternator. If it weren't for the cost I'd say it's a happy end. :)
     
    Agent Smith, Oct 2, 2003
    #14
  15. Agent Smith

    k_teppo Guest

    ....and did it fix the problem with the radio?

    -k
     
    k_teppo, Oct 3, 2003
    #15
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