Civic EX Coupe Gas Mileage

Discussion in 'Civic' started by ravelation, Oct 6, 2003.

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    ravelation Guest

    What are you getting around town in your Civic? What's considered
    "normal" for gas mileage? My son says he's getting around 17-18 mpg with
    a/c use and 17's mounted as wheels, and a fart bomb exhaust ('99 Civic
    EX coupe). As we didn't mount the wheels, I am guessing the speedo gear
    wasn't changed when the new wheel and tire size were mounted, so the
    actual mileage may be off from that, as well.

    Also, can you get a true reading of MPG when you fill up at half a tank?
    The reason I ask is it always seems like the first half of the tank is
    used more quickly than the second half? Myth, or true?
    TIA.
     
    ravelation, Oct 6, 2003
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    Pete Guest

    Assuming the correct tire size was chosen for these larger rims, the
    speedo/odo should not be affected. Althought your gas mileage will be
    affected as the larger rims are most likely heavier and have a larger
    contact patch (higher rolling resistance).

    No. How do you know you're at half a tank? By looking at your fuel gauge?
    There's no way you'll get an accurate measurement that way. Fill up with
    gas. Drive. Fill up with gas again. Then divide miles driven by gallons
    purchased (at second fillup of course).

    Quite possibly. The fuel gauge is just an estimate at best. It's not 100%
    accurate. That's why you cannot calculate gas mileage based on it.

    Cheers,

    Pete
     
    Pete, Oct 6, 2003
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    ravelation Guest

    (Pete)
    wrote:
    That's what he's been doing--dividing miles and gallons used. I guess
    the point I'm driving at is if you drive more miles on the tank, does it
    give a higher MPG than if you fill up often? IOW, will a longer useage
    period with more miles and gallons used create a better average?
    Is it possible the full tank of gas creates more drag at the first half
    of the fill up because of the added weight?
     
    ravelation, Oct 6, 2003
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    Randolph Guest

    The average weight of the car will be less if you drive longer between
    fill-ups. This will, as you suggest, lower your gas mileage, but I doubt
    you can measure your fuel consumption accurately enough to catch this.
    What I have found to be the biggest source of inaccuracies is that the
    point at which the pump at the gas station shuts of varies wildly from
    pump to pump. After noticing this, I always fill up at the same pump
    every time (if at all possible). This gives me very consistent numbers.
     
    Randolph, Oct 6, 2003
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    Randolph Guest

    My '94 Civic Si has gotten 30.7 MPG over the past 12 months. This is
    with virtually no highway driving.
     
    Randolph, Oct 6, 2003
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  6. | What are you getting around town in your Civic? What's considered
    | "normal" for gas mileage? My son says he's getting around 17-18 mpg with
    | a/c use and 17's mounted as wheels, and a fart bomb exhaust ('99 Civic
    | EX coupe). As we didn't mount the wheels, I am guessing the speedo gear
    | wasn't changed when the new wheel and tire size were mounted, so the
    | actual mileage may be off from that, as well.
    |
    | Also, can you get a true reading of MPG when you fill up at half a tank?
    | The reason I ask is it always seems like the first half of the tank is
    | used more quickly than the second half? Myth, or true?
    | TIA.
    Make sure the parking brake isn't dragging or other similar easy fix
    (tune-up, etc.). Also, those 17" boat anchors don't help mpg (or handling
    or acceleration). The loud exhaust might encourage more aggressive driving
    hurting mpg.
     
    John Rutledge, Oct 6, 2003
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    pray4surf Guest

    : What are you getting around town in your Civic? What's considered
    : "normal" for gas mileage? My son says he's getting around 17-18 mpg with
    : a/c use and 17's mounted as wheels, and a fart bomb exhaust ('99 Civic
    : EX coupe). As we didn't mount the wheels, I am guessing the speedo gear
    : wasn't changed when the new wheel and tire size were mounted, so the
    : actual mileage may be off from that, as well.
    :
    : Also, can you get a true reading of MPG when you fill up at half a tank?
    : The reason I ask is it always seems like the first half of the tank is
    : used more quickly than the second half? Myth, or true?
    : TIA.
    :

    95 DX 1.5L w/automatic and we consistently get 28-29mpg avg, mostly city
    street driving (commute doesn't need to include freeway <grin>. However, a
    recent run up to LA county (from SD) returned 32.5 mpg. And I attribute this
    'low' number to returning Sun early a.m. at speeds averaging 80-85 mph. Only
    mod I have are 195/65r15 tires that replaced the 13" that came stock...

    As to the first half tank going 'faster' than the second half... My school
    of thought is an either/or situation. Either I'm feeling "Honda + gas
    economy + full tank = Heavier foot driving" I'm more apt to 'open 'er up'
    (ergo waste gas) vs 'Oh shit, I'm getting low on gas = driving more
    efficiently' Or, The tanks are designed in a pyramidical (made that word up)
    fashion and the sending unit only measures the vertical drop as gas is
    consumed, ergo the bottom of the tank has more volume than the top half...
    One would hope that the designers would take this into account...

    My guess if you were only getting 17-18 mpg around town, somebody's driving
    that car pretty hard ;-) Or have your friendly mechanic take a look at it.

    Rick
     
    pray4surf, Oct 7, 2003
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    noontomorrow Guest

    I observed the opposite. I figured the top half of the tank is larger than
    the bottom, given that the top of the gas is always flat while bottom of the
    tank has round edges. Also, if the level sensor is anything like the toilet
    float, there's more vertical movement in the first half than the last.
     
    noontomorrow, Oct 7, 2003
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    IamGoode Guest

    I have a 95 DX 5 speed 1500 SOHC my wife commutes in 90 miles per day at 40-65
    MPH, I run Conti touring AS tires 195's on 14 inch rims. The only real mods are
    a low restriction air filter and the resonator is removed from the exhaust, the
    car has 155k, only 50 k on the motor.. We get 38-43 MPG strictly commuting,
    30-35 mixed driving. I've seen the kids driving the finned fart bomb civics, I
    suspect the kid has a heavy foot. (hopefully he pays for his own gas!)
    BTW we check the gas milage by toping off and driving down to about a quarter
    than toping off and taking the number of gallons consumed and devide the miles.
    We always use the same gas station.....

    rec.bicycles.marketplace
     
    IamGoode, Oct 7, 2003
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    ravelation Guest

    When we bought the car, we had major tune upage done. The fact the boy
    is 16-l/2....ding ding ding! We have the answer! :) (the fact he can
    now drive 200 lb. friends won't help his bottom line either!)
     
    ravelation, Oct 7, 2003
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    ravelation Guest

    He's had a job at the mall since he was 15-l/2...he definitely pays for
    his gas!
    The heavy foot is a distinct possibility. I think the heavy, aftermarket
    wheels also provide a barrier to good gas mileage.

    He was encouraged on Sunday, though. He drove on the freeway and his
    mileage 'shot up' to 20 mpg. Cheap thrills. :)
     
    ravelation, Oct 7, 2003
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  12. |
    | (pray4surf) wrote:
    |
    | >My guess if you were only getting 17-18
    | >mpg around town, somebody's driving
    | >that car pretty hard ;-) Or have your
    | >friendly mechanic take a look at it.
    |
    | When we bought the car, we had major tune upage done. The fact the boy
    | is 16-l/2....ding ding ding! We have the answer! :) (the fact he can
    | now drive 200 lb. friends won't help his bottom line either!)
    I had that same problem when I was 16 but my folks fixed it pretty quick -
    had to buy my own gas, insurance, parts, tires, etc. with the money I earned
    from my part time job. Mpg improved instantly.
     
    John Rutledge, Oct 7, 2003
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    Larry Guest

    Driving habits really affect this car. I have a 99 EX Auto (stock
    wheels/tires) and as I've experimented driving around town, if I don't use
    the air and drive very conservatively, I can get almost 26 mpg around town.
    If I turn on the air and drive more aggressively, the mileage is about 21
    mpg. My normal driving habits dictate about 23 mpg in that using a/c is
    mandatory during the summer months. I've gotten as high as 38 mpg for
    highway driving.....at 80 mph avg no less...usually its closer to 34-35 mpg.
     
    Larry, Oct 16, 2003
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    ravelation Guest

    Thanks for the feedback, Larry. Your numbers are more in line with what
    I thought they would be for the Civic. Given the heavier, larger wheels
    on my son's Civic, it would stand to reason he's getting what he is in
    gas mileage.

    (Larry) wrote:

    Driving habits really affect this car. I have a 99 EX Auto (stock
    wheels/tires) and as I've experimented driving around town, if I don't
    use the air and drive very conservatively, I can get almost 26 mpg
    around town. If I turn on the air and drive more aggressively, the
    mileage is about 21 mpg. My normal driving habits dictate about 23 mpg
    in that using a/c is mandatory during the summer months. I've gotten as
    high as 38 mpg for highway driving.....at 80 mph avg no less...usually
    its closer to 34-35 mpg.
     
    ravelation, Oct 16, 2003
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