civic hesitates (stutters) between 1500 and 2000rpm

Discussion in 'Civic' started by Jeremy Chapman, Apr 9, 2007.

  1. Recently my 2000 civic sir (si in the US) has started to hesitate or stutter
    periodically. It happens between 1500 and 2500 rpm and I beleive it's
    usually when it's warm, and I'm accelerating from a stop. Any ideas what
    this could be?
     
    Jeremy Chapman, Apr 9, 2007
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  2. Jeremy Chapman

    Linuxiac Guest

    You changed the fuel filter?

    Checked air filter?

    Had any work done under the hood, where some one could have pulled a
    vacuum hose lose?

    Changed the fuel cap?
     
    Linuxiac, Apr 9, 2007
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  3. I have recently replaced the air filter, changed oil/filter, and pcv valve.
    The problem started shortly before I did this.
    If it was a vaccume hose issue, how can I track down the leak?
     
    Jeremy Chapman, Apr 9, 2007
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  4. Jeremy Chapman

    jim beam Guest

    you'll almost certainly have codes stored in the computer. read them,
    then report back.
     
    jim beam, Apr 9, 2007
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  5. Jeremy Chapman

    Jeremy Guest

    I hooked up a computer two weeks ago when it started,and there were no
    codes. My girlfriend said the check engine light blinked a few times on her
    way to work, so I'll check again. Haven't seen the light come on since.

    I'll check again this week.
     
    Jeremy, Apr 10, 2007
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  6. Jeremy Chapman

    Jeremy Guest

    No codes. I was able to get the engine light blink a few times. I was
    accelerating from stop, and the engine was hesitating, kind of boggin down.
    I floored it and after about two seconds the engine light blinked 5 or 6
    times. After about 5 seconds the engine started responding properly and the
    engine like went away. No codes were saved.
     
    Jeremy, Apr 16, 2007
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  7. Jeremy Chapman

    jim beam Guest

    don't believe you! how did you try to read them?
     
    jim beam, Apr 16, 2007
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  8. Jeremy Chapman

    Jeremy Guest

    I've got an obd2 code reader. It connects with a green light and no codes
    are reported. I know it works because we've connected it to other vehicles
    and it's reported codes on them.
     
    Jeremy, Apr 16, 2007
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  9. For the experts: does this sound like distributor trouble?
     
    Michael Pardee, Apr 16, 2007
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  10. Jeremy Chapman

    jim beam Guest

    in that case, look into the ignition switch. for your model year, there
    was a recall because the switched burnt out - and symptoms were odd, but
    left no code like you describe. it's particularly bad if you have a
    heavy key ring. try using the key on its own and making sure you
    manually return the key fully to the "run" position after cranking
    rather than letting it turn back with just the spring. the spring's not
    very strong, and particularly with a heavy key ring, the contacts only
    partially engage, overheat, and burn out. and of course, replace the
    ignition switch if this turns out to be the cause.
     
    jim beam, Apr 16, 2007
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  11. Maybe but with modern cars with 'puters, it's hard to tell.

    JT

    (If it has a "Check Engine" light, I won't own it!)
     
    Grumpy AuContraire, Apr 16, 2007
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  12. Jeremy Chapman

    Jeremy Guest

    I was finally able to get the check engine light to stay on and codes to be
    saved. They're missfire codes and it turns out the misfire monitor requires
    2 consecutive trips to trigger the DTC.

    The codes are P0303 (Cylinder 3 misfire) and P1399 (Random/Multiple
    cyclinder misfire).

    Reported data is as follows:

    Report#: 1
    Report Date: 4-16-2007 (8:34 PM)
    Vehicle Year: 2000
    Vehicle Make: Honda
    Vehicle Model: Civic (SIR)
    Vehicle Engine Size: 1.6L
    Vehicle VIN:
    Vehicle License Plate:
    Vehicle Mileage: 1230000

    Stored:
    P0303 Cylinder 3 Misfire Detected

    Pending:
    P1399 Random / Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected

    MIL ON
    MisFire Monitor Complete
    Fuel System Monitor Complete
    Comprehensive Component Monitor Complete
    Catalyst Monitor Complete
    Heated Catalyst Monitor Not Supported
    Evaporative System Monitor Complete
    Secondary Air System Monitor Not Supported
    A/C System Refrigerant Monitor Not Supported
    Oxygen Sensor Monitor Complete
    Oxygen Sensor Heater Monitor Complete
    EGR System Monitor Not Supported

    DTC for which Freeze Frame was Stored P0303
    Fuel System 1 Status Open Loop - due to driving conditions
    Fuel System 2 Status Not Supported
    Calculated LOAD Value 94.12 %
    Engine Coolant Temp 138.20 °F
    Short Term Fuel Trim - Bank 1 0.00 %
    Long Term Fuel Trim - Bank 1 -4.69 %
    Intake Manifold Absolute Pressure 28.05 inHg
    Engine RPM 3256 rpm
    Vehicle Speed Sensor 32.93 mph
    Intake Air Temperature 59.00 °F
    Absolute Throttle Position 92.55 %
     
    Jeremy, Apr 17, 2007
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  13. Jeremy Chapman

    jim beam Guest


    check the ignition componentry [distributor cap, rotor, leads and plugs]
    and ensure its in good condition - if old, suggest replacement as a
    precaution. random misfire on all cylinders can be multiple problems,
    but misfire on #3 is injector or ignition componentry. injector cleaner
    might be a good idea too.
     
    jim beam, Apr 17, 2007
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  14. Jeremy Chapman

    Jeremy Guest

    Thanks for the tips. I'll look into these. The thing I found odd was that
    the behavior only manifests when I'm excellerating, usually from stop or if
    I punch the gas, and the car has warmed up.

     
    Jeremy, Apr 18, 2007
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  15. Jeremy Chapman

    jim beam Guest

    that's consistent, particularly with aged plugs. for spark plugs, the
    sparking voltage depends on the gas pressure, composition, etc in the
    cylinder. if the plug is leaking slightly [electrically] or the
    electrodes are worn, it may spark at one cylinder condition, but not at
    the other. same can go for aged distributor caps/rotors.
     
    jim beam, Apr 18, 2007
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  16. Jeremy Chapman

    Jeremy Guest

    Good call, turns out I was able to fix the problem simply by changing the
    plugs. The old ones didn't even look that bad. Glad I didn't take it into
    honda, the honda dealership here is terrible, I'd be surprised if it would
    have came to less than $200 or $300 by the time they got through with it.


     
    Jeremy, Apr 23, 2007
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  17. Thanks for letting us know what the problem was - it helps the next guy.
    What brand were the old plugs?

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Apr 23, 2007
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  18. Jeremy Chapman

    Jeremy Guest

    The old brand I was using were Bosch. I've gone with NGK this time. It's
    one of the brands Honda recommends in the manual.
     
    Jeremy, Apr 25, 2007
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