Clicking, but no starting

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by YaleBoundCivic, Jun 30, 2006.

  1. I recently replaced the clutch and flywheel on my 92 1.5l Civic LX. It
    was running just fine, but now when I turn the key all i hear is a
    clicking noise. It sounds like the solenoid is working, but the
    starter motor is not turning, any thoughts or corrections.
    Thanks
    Josh
     
    YaleBoundCivic, Jun 30, 2006
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    Jim Yanik Guest

    Probably a worn starter solenoid;IIRC,Civic starters have a replaceable
    solenoid....without having to replace the entire starter,but if that's not
    the case,as was with my 94 Integra,then check out this site;
    http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html
    You can buy replacement solenoid contacts and plunger and "rebuild" the
    solenoid yourself at considerable savings.It only cost me $30 USD PPD to do
    my starter.The hardest part was getting the lower starter bolt out,in order
    to remove the starter assembly for rework.It was frozen into the aluminum
    block...the bolt has long threads.Replacing the contacts and plunger was
    easy.

    The problem is that the contacts inside the solenoid get eroded by the
    starter current and eventually do not make contact anymore. You hear the
    clicking of the solenoid coil moving the plunger,but the contacts are not
    completing the circuit for the motor to get power.

    I'm not associated with the abovementioned company,just a satisfied
    customer.
     
    Jim Yanik, Jul 1, 2006
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    jim beam Guest

    that's a great link for tegger's honda faq!
     
    jim beam, Jul 1, 2006
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    TeGGeR® Guest


    Checked the battery's state-of-charge?

    Cleaned the cables and connections?

    Do that first, then condemn more expensive stuff.
     
    TeGGeR®, Jul 1, 2006
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    TeGGeR® Guest


    Yeah, it is. And I'll have to add it.

    I'm a bit disappointed Honda is not buying starters from Mitsuba any more.
    Now we have the same "contact" failures Toyota owners have had for a
    decade. :(
     
    TeGGeR®, Jul 1, 2006
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    jim beam Guest

    mitsuba? of main relay failure fame? i'm not sure that's a bad decision!
     
    jim beam, Jul 1, 2006
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    Jim Yanik Guest

    Well,$30 for a contact/plunger kit is still better than what you'd pay for
    a Mitsuba starter,even rebuilt.
    As I said,replacing the contacts was the easiest part of the job.
    Knowing it only cost me $30(and some skinned knuckles);priceless! ;-)
     
    Jim Yanik, Jul 1, 2006
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    Alan Guest

    It's an interesting note that it's happening right after replacing the
    flywheel. If you can jump/short the three wires on the starter/solenoid
    and it still clicks, not turning over, than it's not the solenoid
    contacts. Maybe the starter mounting nuts aren't tight?

    Alan
     
    Alan, Jul 1, 2006
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    Eric Guest

    I've replaced many Honda starter contacts without replacing the plunger and
    never had a come back. There's very little wear on the plunger side of the
    contact. Honda used to, and may still sell a replacement starter contact
    kit. These included the contact and the plastic bushings. In addition,
    just so others know, the contact can usually be replaced with the starter
    still in the car (only one of the contacts need to be replaced as the other
    does not wear much at all). I've done many and not found a need to remove
    it. These were mostly earlier cars up through the '91 Civic. I suppose
    that some later models which could have more crowded engine compartments
    might be problematic.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Jul 1, 2006
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    Eric Guest

    I'm a bit confused. Honda has had starter contact problems for years. I
    replaced the starter contact on my '78 Accord. Early Civics from the same
    vintage, e.g. '76, also used a starter with a replaceable contact.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Jul 1, 2006
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    Coqui Sound Guest


    I agree, I forgot to hook up the ground cable that connects the body with
    the tranny on my 97 Civic EX after the same repair. it would click but would
    not turn.

    Vic
     
    Coqui Sound, Jul 1, 2006
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    Jim Yanik Guest

    On my plunger,there was enough erosion that for $30,it was worth it to
    replace the plunger too.The copper ring was bevelled enough that it would
    make a poor contact(and would cause erosion quicker on the new
    contacts),and since I was already in there....
    You could get by with doing just the contacts,but I'd rather do a complete
    job.

    BOTH of my contacts were eroded ~50%. About HALF the original thickness.
    YMMV.
     
    Jim Yanik, Jul 1, 2006
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