clutch pressure cylinder of a manual tranny 2000 Civic

Discussion in 'Civic' started by gigelus2k3, Sep 11, 2007.

  1. gigelus2k3

    gigelus2k3 Guest

    Hello,

    While doing a minor service, my mechanic found that the master clutch
    cylinder (is that the right terminology?) is leaking and needs to be
    replaced.

    How common is this failure? The car has only 86k miles on it. Also,
    what would cause the leak to occur, simple wear & tear or driver's
    action?

    Thank you.
     
    gigelus2k3, Sep 11, 2007
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  2. gigelus2k3

    motsco_ Guest

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    It _can_ be caused by somebody doing a careless job of bleeding the
    brakes. Some will tell you it can't happen. They sometimes fail for no
    reason, but yours is LOW mileage.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, Sep 12, 2007
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  3. gigelus2k3

    Jim Yanik Guest

    what does brake bleeding have to do with a CLUTCH master cylinder?

    hydraulic fluid can absorb moisture and that can cause corrosion in the
    aluminum bore of the master cylinder,which wears out the piston seal.
    (neoprene plastic?)
    I suspect changing the fluid every 5 years might make a difference.

    I suppose that the number of times the clutch pedal is operated matters for
    seal wear,too. stop n go driving makes you use the clutch a lot more than
    cruising mode.

    My 94 Integra GS-R needed a clutch master cylinder fairly early in
    mileage,but only after ~8 of years of driving.It also needed a brake
    master cylinder a couple of years later.(my car only had 59K miles when it
    was stolen,stripped and torched in Jun29-07)
     
    Jim Yanik, Sep 12, 2007
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  4. gigelus2k3

    Tegger Guest


    Yes, but I would rearrange that to say that the "clutch master cylinder" is
    leaking.

    Grammatically, the subject is the "clutch", while the object is the "master
    cylinder".


    Both, actually.

    If you've never changed the fluid, the seals will wear out in jig time.

    If you spend lots of time in city traffic, the pedal gets a lot of pumps,
    and each pump is one more scrape of seals against cylinder wall, and thus
    that much more wear.
     
    Tegger, Sep 12, 2007
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  5. gigelus2k3

    motsco_ Guest

     
    motsco_, Sep 12, 2007
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  6. gigelus2k3

    Jim Yanik Guest

    is there a recommended mileage or # of months for clutch fluid replacement?

    I suspect there is for the brakes.(don't have a owner's manual anymore to
    refer to)
     
    Jim Yanik, Sep 12, 2007
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  7. gigelus2k3

    gigelus2k3 Guest

    I'll check later, but don't remember seeing it in the maintenance list.
     
    gigelus2k3, Sep 12, 2007
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  8. gigelus2k3

    Tegger Guest


    Every three years regardless of mileage for both brake and clutch. They are
    constructed the same way and use the same fluid.

    This interval assumes the use of genuine Honda brake fluid. If you're using
    aftermarket fluid (like I do), you need to change it very year.
     
    Tegger, Sep 12, 2007
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  9. gigelus2k3

    Tegger Guest


    It's /not/ in there, for some odd reason.

    But the brake and clutch mechanisms are the same basic construction and use
    the same fluid. The fluids need to be changed at the same time.
     
    Tegger, Sep 12, 2007
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  10. I'll probably get flamed but I have never changed any of the following in my
    car:

    Brake fluid
    Clutch fluid (dealer didn't even flush this when they did the clutch on
    warranty at 170000kms)
    P/S fluid
    Coolant (I did change 1/2 of it when I did my water pump)

    I have also been told by more than one Honda dealer that the above are
    considered "Lifetime" fluids. I suppose that means that there is no listing
    on the maintenance schedule, so do it as needed.

    I have changed:

    Engine Oil (every 5000-10000kms) - Mobil 1 synthetic since about 80000kms
    Tranny Fluid (Manual trannie, every 50000-75000km) - Honda fluid only

    I have a 98 Civic LX Sedan 5spd manual with 283000kms on it.

    t
     
    loewent via CarKB.com, Sep 12, 2007
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  11. gigelus2k3

    Joe LaVigne Guest

    The brake fluid is listed as every 3 years in my Si Manual...


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    Joe LaVigne, Sep 12, 2007
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