Coasting in Neutral???

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by googamooga, Jul 2, 2008.

  1. googamooga

    Tegger Guest


    There was no unusual wear to any part of my clutch assembly. The pressure
    plate was replaced on principle because it was 255,000 miles old, not
    because anything was specifically wrong with it.

    Riding the clutch - or neglected adjustment - will cause far quicker and
    more severe wear than double-clutching.
     
    Tegger, Jul 4, 2008
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  2. googamooga

    Tegger Guest



    They've really screwed down the fuel-cutoff since 1995. All Honda engines
    now shut off the injectors on decel at or below 1,000 rpm. There's one
    Civic engine where they shut off on decel above 850rpm. Can't remember
    which one just now, though...

    In 1991 it was 1,500 rpm.
     
    Tegger, Jul 4, 2008
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  3. googamooga

    jim beam Guest

    i didn't say there was, but by definition, the more times you operate
    it, the closer it gets to its limit. you're operating it twice as many
    times as other people, that's all.

    quicker wear of the friction plate and thrust bearing, yes indeed.
     
    jim beam, Jul 4, 2008
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  4. googamooga

    jim beam Guest

    not true - and we've had this conversation before. the porsche type
    synchro is a large annular ring with a couple of springs inside. it
    has steel-to-steel contact, unlike the bronze cones of the more
    traditional type.

    not so. the porsche type is simply a friction fit. if you want to race
    it and over-ride the blocking action, you can.

    while they spin, they're hydrodynamically separated by oil.

    actually, all it means is that the two are in sync. nothing else. it
    won't drop in [under normal usage] unless they are. if it takes time to
    sync, it doesn't matter because the real syncing comes from rev matching
    if relatively low mass components - two cogs, two shafts and a clutch
    friction plate.

    not so you'd notice. really, the blocker mechanism is excellent and
    lasts as long as the rest of the transmission unless forced. and that
    includes defective clutch and/or over-zealous shifting. my crx had 306k
    miles on it and the synchros were perfect - no crunchiness at any speed,
    in any gear.
     
    jim beam, Jul 4, 2008
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  5. googamooga

    jim beam Guest

    sure. absolutely no point injecting if the momentum of the car is still
    turning the motor.
     
    jim beam, Jul 4, 2008
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  6. googamooga

    Tegger Guest


    Then Honda synchros are cones. We're talking Hondas here, not Porsches.
     
    Tegger, Jul 4, 2008
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  7. googamooga

    JXStern Guest

    Interesting. One change I noticed in my 2007 Accord 4 auto over the
    2004 is that with foot off gas it almost seems to decelerate like an
    old-style drive-by-linkage manual!

    On the other side, I notice GM is advertising a car that (apparently)
    shifts to neutral while waiting at a light. Oh, technology! I often
    do that myself when I catch a long cycle, can be two minutes at some
    major intersections. I just get tired of standing on the brake that
    long, besides saving a few drops of gas.

    J.
     
    JXStern, Jul 4, 2008
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