Cold engine at 70Mph

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Fijoy, Dec 9, 2010.

  1. Fijoy

    Fijoy Guest

    Hi all,

    I was driving my 91 Honda Accord on the interstate the other day when
    it was near freezing outside. I noticed that the engine temperature
    was near 'C', even after driving at 70Mph for more than 15min! I had
    to turn the heat all the way up to get a comfortable temperature
    inside the car. Once I exited the highway and slowed down, the engine
    temperature began to rise toward half-way between 'C' and 'H', where
    it usually is.

    Is the above normal? Is the radiator over-cooling the engine? I am
    assuming that a cold engine 70Mph is not good for the car.

    Thanks for any advice.

    Fijoy
     
    Fijoy, Dec 9, 2010
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    MM Guest

    The thermostat is probably stuck open.
     
    MM, Dec 9, 2010
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    jim beam Guest

    1. it's going to take longer to warm up if the heater is on. in cold
    weather, a lot longer.

    2. at high rpm's, and thus high coolant flow pressure, it's possible for
    the thermostat valve to be sprung open - the effect would be the same as
    having the heater on - it'll take longer to warm up.

    3. the thermostat might be defective and jammed open. [i've also seen
    them with debris/foreign matter jammed inside, again preventing them
    from closing properly.] if this is still the original nearly 20-yo
    thermostat, i'd recommend changing it.
     
    jim beam, Dec 9, 2010
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  4. Fijoy

    Tegger Guest



    The /thermostat/ is overcooling the engine. You need to replace it.

    Use a genuine Honda thermostat ONLY. It's about $30, but well-worth the
    money.
     
    Tegger, Dec 10, 2010
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  5. Fijoy

    Fijoy Guest

    Hi all,

    Thanks for the responses.

    I am thinking of changing the thermostat myself, but I am a novice. I
    cannot not figure out where the thermostat is, even after a google
    search. Is it on the lower radiator hose, or the upper one? Do I
    absolutely have to drain the cooling system to change it?

    Fijoy
     
    Fijoy, Dec 11, 2010
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    Average Joe Guest

    Your willingness and sense of adventure are admirable--- but it sounds
    like you're over your head on this one. Take it to a repair shop...
     
    Average Joe, Dec 11, 2010
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    Dillon Pyron Guest

    Yes, my thought, also.

    Once you get the antifreeze out, swapping out the 'stat is easy.
    Purging the coolant is a pain, at least for me.
    --

    - dillon I am not invalid

    An object's desireability to a dog is directly
    proportional to its desireability to another dog.
     
    Dillon Pyron, Dec 12, 2010
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    dan Guest

    It helps to open the bleeder. :)
     
    dan, Dec 12, 2010
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  9. Fijoy

    Dillon Pyron Guest

    Oh sure. Some people want the quick and easy way out.

    When I was a kid we had to combine hydrogen molecules with free oxygen
    radicals before we could fill our stone radiators. :)
    --

    - dillon I am not invalid

    An object's desireability to a dog is directly
    proportional to its desireability to another dog.
     
    Dillon Pyron, Dec 14, 2010
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  10. Fijoy

    Dillon Pyron Guest

    The shop manual is your friend. Heck, even Chilton's should get you
    through that. I wouldn't advocate trying to rebuild your auto trans
    using one, but changint the 'stat should be doable.

    Heck, my Honda Fit manual (official) makes it sound easy enough to do
    at home.

    "Using a chassis lift, raise the vehicle at least three feet.
    Disconnect all electrical and fluid lines, remove the hood and, using
    an appropriate hoist, lower the enginetransaxle assembly after first
    removing the cross member and the tie rods. Then find someone who
    knows what the heck they're doing to swear at you for at least ten
    minutes and call you an idiot in four or more languages, including
    Japanese"

    Come one, I just had to. If you read the comic strip "Pearls Before
    Swine" you can appreciate the long windup.
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    - dillon I am not invalid

    An object's desireability to a dog is directly
    proportional to its desireability to another dog.
     
    Dillon Pyron, Dec 14, 2010
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    Tegger Guest

    :


    See the rad hose that comes out of the /bottom/ of the rad? Follow it up
    until it ends. That's where the thermostat is.

    Yes, you need to drain at least some coolant.

    You should not be attempting this project unless you have some kind of shop
    manual, and some kind of mechanical aptitude.
     
    Tegger, Dec 14, 2010
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    Tony Harding Guest

    You had H and O2 molecules - *luxury*!

    :)
     
    Tony Harding, Dec 16, 2010
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  13. Fijoy

    Fijoy Guest

    Thank you all for the replies. They are very helpful.

    Fijoy
     
    Fijoy, Dec 18, 2010
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  14. Fijoy

    Dillon Pyron Guest

    No, free oxygen radicals. Although many were later arrested and
    charged for crimes like the riots at Gimburg.
    --

    - dillon I am not invalid

    An object's desireability to a dog is directly
    proportional to its desireability to another dog.
     
    Dillon Pyron, Dec 29, 2010
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