cold-starting problem with 1995 Accord

Discussion in 'Accord' started by meciboy, Feb 13, 2007.

  1. meciboy

    meciboy Guest

    Have a 1995 Accord, recently i have difficulty getting it started when
    it sits over-night or its wet/damp outside. Once it’s running its
    great, always starts and gets 30 MPG with 190K on the engine. Have
    taken it to the mechanic twice. First time he replaced two spark plugs
    because they were mis-gapped. Second time he said it was the battery,
    which was bad and has been replaced. The engine turns over (sometimes
    10 or more times) but will not fire, and now sometimes i turn the key
    and nothing happens. Have a newer starter but all ignition components
    are original along with fuel injectors and fuel filter ( i heard this
    is a bitch to replace). For the first 30 seconds or so the engine
    sounds like its missing until it kind of warms up. Any help?
     
    meciboy, Feb 13, 2007
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  2. meciboy

    jim beam Guest

    1. find a new mechanic that knows what they're doing.
    2. discover the importance of injector cleaner.
    3. look into the famous honda ignition switch problem if not that,
    check the chassis earth connections..

    i think you have two problems - flooding from leaky injectors causes
    starting problems if left overnight. read the owners manual on how to
    start a flooded engine. [and don't buy cheap gas and use injector
    cleaner regularly.] also, the ignition switch electrics can be
    unreliable. the switch is easy enough to replace. check the earth
    connections first though.

    definitely find a new mechanic. independent honda trained people exist
    and are not too expensive - you just need to find one.
     
    jim beam, Feb 13, 2007
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  3. meciboy

    Tek Guest

    Have a 1995 Accord, recently i have difficulty getting it started when
    Yes i can help. Let me start by saying replacing two spark plugs is
    the cheapest dumbest idea I HAVE EVER HEARD! FIRE YOUR MECHANIC! If
    you have a 95 with original ignition components you really need to
    start there. Cap, rotor, wires, and plugs should be your first step.
    Make sure they are factory and if you really can't afford it, do not
    buy platnum or double tip or what ever else the asshole behind the
    counter at autozone trys to sell you. Pre-gapped NGK plugs are what
    the factory uses. Get the same. I had recently bought the same car
    and when it is wet it didn't run right and it would barely start. I
    replaced the ignition components and have not had a problem sence.
     
    Tek, Feb 15, 2007
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  4. meciboy

    Tegger Guest




    There's likely your problem. The wires are too old.

    HT current is leaking off or shorting through the plug boot before it gets
    to jump the plug gap.

    Replace the wires with new OEM, not aftermarket. Bet the problem goes away.




    It's "missing" until warmup? Dead giveaway. It IS missing...because of
    ancient wires.

    You can use injector cleaner if you like, but it will neither hurt nor help
    in this case.
     
    Tegger, Feb 15, 2007
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  5. meciboy

    meciboy Guest

    Thanks for the info. did have the starter replaced because it was
    free under warranty. That ignition problem hasn’t happened again. I
    am going towards the fuel injector route now, i’m going to run some
    expensive injector cleaner with higher octane gas next fill-up and see
    if i notice any difference. Don’t know if i want to go as far as
    cleaning them off the engine. Thanks for the advice

     
    meciboy, Feb 17, 2007
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  6. meciboy

    meciboy Guest

    Did replace the wires but they were generic and didn’t fit right-i
    took them back, i know i should always stay with OEM for Honda’s.
    Going to go with injector cleaner first before i start replacing
    anything, the mechanic says Honda wires should be good for life? I’m
    not so sure. Thanks for the advic
     
    meciboy, Feb 17, 2007
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  7. meciboy

    Tegger Guest



    Absolutely not. The wires are good for maybe seven years. After that the
    insulation begins to break down, allowing moisture to wick current away
    from the core.

    You NEED to replace the entire high-tension side. That means wires, plugs,
    cap and rotor. Failure to do this will result in worsening starting
    problems and eventual coil/igniter failure.
     
    Tegger, Feb 17, 2007
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  8. meciboy

    jim beam Guest

    i haven't always enjoyed the greatest results with honda oem wires.
    while they are definitely better than cheapo generic garbage from the
    local parts store, they're not the best.

    among alternatives:
    1. ngk standard core are good quality leads, widely available and
    competitively priced. easily as good as oem.

    2. ngk coiled core are absolutely excellent - coiled core is the best
    kind of lead to use. they definitely make the car run better at low
    rpm's, starting is quicker and most importantly, they get rid of
    electrical noise throughout the system.

    3. even better than that are are magnecor leads. but they're not as
    straight forward to use as the leads are thicker than oem. and the
    connectors look a little funky, if you care about such things.
     
    jim beam, Feb 17, 2007
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  9. meciboy

    meciboy Guest

    Great advice, you’re right, the mechanic did say he sprayed water on
    the engine and it ran bad until it dried off, this makes sense that
    the wires are worn. Will replace wires , cap, and rotor. Thank
     
    meciboy, Mar 5, 2007
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