I'm looking to purchase a new(er) car at the end of summer for around -22,000 CDN (-16,500 US) and have been looking at these four options: 1. 2003 Toyota Matrix XRS or XR B-pack 2. 2004/2005 Toyota Corollla B-Pack 3. 1998-2002 Honda Civic SI 4. 2001-2003 Honda Civic DX-G I previously owned a 1993 Saturn SL1 and liked the luxury-type features (A/C, pdl, pw, pm, comfy seats, cruise, tilt, etc) and a Jeep YJ (convertible - openness). I currently drive a 1997 Toyota Corolla SD, the plain-jane no frill model. It doesn't even have A/C. I have a 15 month old child and A/C is kinda needed. My Corolla is also very uncomfy and not suitable for long drives. In my new car, I want some frills, like keyless entry, pw, sunroof would be AWESOME!, cruise control, etc. Price is also a factor - I'm a full-time dad raising my child and the more money saved the better. I want reliability, practicality, comfort, gas mileage, etc. It's going to be for daily driving mostly in the city. I live in the cold climate of Canada which ranges from +30C to -30C (-22F to 86F) so heat and coolness are big factors as well as handling in ice/snow/rain. I'm looking for honest and unbiased opinions. I'm posting this in Honda & Toyota newsgroups and I know people in their respective ones no-doubt prefer the company they are driving, but please be as impartial as possible. I only plan to buy one new car in the next 10-15 years and this will be it. Tell me your gripes and your praises for any of the models you own(ed) above or have heard about. All comments appreciated!! My current views are: 1. The Matrix seems very practical for everything. Reliability is hard to tell because they are relatively new but they seem OK? They may be a bit big tho and I wonder about fuel consumption? Pricy, too, for the higher models. 2. I love Corollas for their reliability and price. I tried an '04 out in the winter and it handled VERY well. It was also very warm and somewhat comfy. I've heard the '05's will be very comfy. It also seemed to have alot of power. I guess my only gripe with them is their simplicity. Simple can be good, but they aren't great looking cars and they lack the sunroof which I'd really like if possible. Still tho, for the price it's a pretty good choice. 3. I'd love to own an SI but I wonder about 2-door for a child? Many say it's hard to get them in and out and it's not so great. I've also heard mixed opinions on the higher output VTec engines - some people say they wear out a little faster? The price is also alot higher unless I go '99ish with a bit higher K's. However, they have all the bells and whistles and are fun to drive - as well as a good resale value. (PS: I know the '04's have 4-door, but they are a bit outta my price range for now ...but if you have some feedback on them, feel free to reply!) Is it worth the SI or is the DX-G just as good? 4. The DX-G seems like the Corolla's comparison but with a few more frills. I know very little about them tho except that they are a few 00 more. Feedback needed! I thank all of you for your help!! Sorry for the crossposting and the long post! griffin