Consider buying American!

END OF LIFE - at least BMW are honest about it having one - unlike a load of US
built rubbish I see when I venture forth over there and some of the real crap
built in the US over here.
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Sir Hugh of Bognor

The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.

Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it!

Hugh Gundersen

Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK

 

Well that's easy.........

1. it must work

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Sir Hugh of Bognor

The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.

Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it!

Hugh Gundersen

Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK

 

Gross polluter.......... Since when did that matter to you in the US?

However this global warming thing is a big lie. Why do you think all the
disaster movies are being made about asteroids hitting of coming close?

Mainly because in 2012 or there about's one is destined to actually land and if
the movie moguls have plotted it right it will probably aim for Detroit....
Giving the UK, Korea, Germany and possibly China a wide berth keeping impact
damage to those countries to a minimum.

BTW where do you live in the US - I'll email the co-ordinates to the asteroid
pilot in the morning.
--

Sir Hugh of Bognor

The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.

Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it!

Hugh Gundersen

Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK

 

.... but if you are adjusting the timing you know the chain has
changed.

No it just breaks with no warning and trashes the engine (on a Honda)
I know you think a Honda belt has never broken before the service
interval but that is bullshit too.

 

Tell that to a woman that wore "garter belt" or Suspenders the timing that it
broke was never hinted at - their stocking simply fell down like your engine
does when the belt breaks.

--

Sir Hugh of Bognor

The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.

Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it!

Hugh Gundersen

Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK

 

I'm sure that is true

 

I have done so but you won't listen like a 12 year old.

they talk bollocks too.
--

Sir Hugh of Bognor

The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.

Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it!

Hugh Gundersen

Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK

 

Well that's obvious seeing the crap coming from Detroit nowadays.--

Sir Hugh of Bognor

The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.

Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it!

Hugh Gundersen

Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK

 

A bold statement, do you have any facts to back it up?

 

Nice one - I wonder if he'll get the joke?
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Sir Hugh of Bognor

The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.

Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it!

Hugh Gundersen

Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK

 

When the quality is there, and when they compensate buyers for the dross
and attitude they previously served. Maybe.

 

have you ever cut a belt open? not that much rubber in there - it's
mostly kevlar cord. unless kevlar is used for underwear by english
chicks, that's a ridiculous analogy.

 

er, it's kind of obvious to anyone that opens the hood occasionally.

but since you don't want to take my word for it, here's an experiment
you can do for yourself. buy a spring loaded punch like this:

http://www.hartvilletool.com/product/11464

go to a junkyard.

use your punch on the cam lobes of say a taurus. note size of indent mark.

now, try the same exercise on a camry. comparable vehicles.

then tell us what you observed.

 

that's not always true.

that's not always true either. my friend's accord broke the belt and
the valves were fine. they were lucky, but it happened nevertheless.
and they could have avoided the breakage - the belt was whining and i
warned him to get it done. it broke about a month later.

statistically, it is very unlikely if you observe both mileage and age
limits. less than one per million.

 

If it didn't stretch it'd not need a spring loaded tensioner. Of course
belts stretch.

 

From my experience with American vehicles over 45 years I have been
driving them, the drive train is pretty solid, it is the geehaws they
stick in the car to make it sell that is the junk. Plastic dash boards
and all that pretty interior that falls apart, cheap A/C compressors
and the rest of the bolt on stuff. That is why it is not unusual to
still see 25 year old ford trucks on the road, still getting it done.
They weren't fancy.

 

Sheesh!

 

sorry dude, you can't fit it if it's already tight. you can try that
for yourself if you want.

and belts don't stretch - there's no wear mechanism to cause it like
there is in a chain. kevlar cords don't creep.

 

The others have a tendancy to move them around more...

And the Chryslers I have had were better than any GMs we had.

Interesting to see how this plays out. If Chrysler can get over the
Butt-Uglies!

My US made Honda was GREAT! I was leery of buying a US made Honda, but
where I live JH vins are rare. I was amazingly surprised. Of course, a lot
of the parts caem from Japan.

However, the fit wasn't quite up to Japanese standards. One fender was off
a bit, and some inside trim was off. Big deal! The car went 220,000
trouble-free miles.

But GMs incetives get better and better. The guy whose place I took on the
Dell job wants to sell the car he was using for work, because he bought a
new Silverado. He was looking at a Tacoma, but the Chevy dealer bent
himself in half to sell the truck, coming in $2,000 under Toyota's price.

 

It's good entertainment. Why try to chop it off? (so to speak)