Consumers Reports Seeks Bailout

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Comments4u, Dec 10, 2008.

  1. Comments4u

    pkbrandon Guest

    Actually, what ended in 1973 was the Silver Certificate (the gold
    standard was ended in the '30's).
    from Wikipedia:
    "In March 1964, Secretary of the Treasury C. Douglas Dillon halted
    redemption of Silver Certificates for Silver Dollars. In the 1970s,
    large numbers of the remaining silver dollars in the mint vaults were
    sold to the collecting public for collector value. Silver Certificates
    were abolished by Congress on June 4, 1963 and all redemption in
    silver ceased on June 24, 1968. Paper currency is still valid legal
    tender without the Silver Certificate, instead being backed simply by
    the perceived strength of the U.S. economy. According to the U.S.
    treasury, "The notes have no value for themselves, but for what they
    will buy. In another sense, because they are legal tender, Federal
    Reserve notes are 'backed' by all the goods and services in the
    economy."[1]"

    But you have a point -- currency is no longer backed up by an offer of
    direct exchange for a specific commodity.
    Although, one might say that the Federal Reserve backs up currency by
    accepting it from banks in exchange for electronic funds, and you can
    use currency to purchase Federal securities.
    So what's the point of putting it under your mattress? It has no
    intrinsic value, as noted above, which was MY point.
    If the economy goes under (and it's becoming apparent that if the US
    economy goes under so will the rest of the world) we'll be left with
    barter. What can you stash that someone else would take in exchange
    for food?
     
    pkbrandon, Dec 22, 2008
    #61
  2. The reason one might stash cash under the mattress is to protect it from
    creditors of bust banks.

    As a number of the major 'high/main' street banks in the UK are now largely
    under government ownership the risk of default is reduced, plus the major
    creditor would be the taxpayer...

    DAS

    To send an e-mail directly replace "spam" with "schmetterling"
     
    Dori A Schmetterling, Dec 22, 2008
    #62
  3. Comments4u

    dave.leader Guest

    I could not find Consumer Reports requesting a congressional hearing
    in any news story. Please provide a link. Thanks, Dave
     
    dave.leader, Dec 23, 2008
    #63
  4. Comments4u

    Dean Dark Guest

    Perhaps this will get you started on understanding what has happened:

    http://tinyurl.com/yjm842
     
    Dean Dark, Dec 23, 2008
    #64
  5. Nope. What ended in the '30s was the legality of owning gold in the US.
    Gold was a controlled substance for 40 years -- and when FDR imposed the
    rule (by executive order, not law), he did it on a Saturday when the
    banks were closed, and had federal agents open and raid every safe
    deposit box in the US, take the gold, and leave paper money in its place.

    But foreign governments continued to be allowed to redeem dollars for
    gold at the official price of $35/ounce until 1973, when Nixon "closed
    the gold window".

    Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Harry Browne and Howard Ruff wrote
    books about it that are.
     
    John David Galt, Dec 24, 2008
    #65
  6. Comments4u

    pkbrandon Guest

    "Ruff's Little Book of Big Fortunes in Gold & Silver: A Middle Class
    License to Print Money"
    lends all sorts of confidence, man.
     
    pkbrandon, Dec 25, 2008
    #66
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    pkbrandon Guest

    This is all rather off topic, but ....
    The gold *standard* ended with the foundation of the Federal Reserve
    (anathema to John Galt ;-) in 1914.
    The fact that the Treasury was willing under some circumstances to
    exchange gold for foreign currency does not make it the standard for
    the dollar.
    The Britannica has a good article on it.
     
    pkbrandon, Dec 25, 2008
    #67
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    RF Guest

    3 cheers! :)
     
    RF, Jan 23, 2009
    #68
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