Cool resource on testing auto electrical systems...

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Matt Ion, Dec 14, 2006.

  1. Matt Ion

    Matt Ion Guest

    Stumbled across this while searching for something else...

    "Testing Electrical Systems with a Digital Multimeter

    "Perhaps the most important tool you'll use in troubleshooting auto electrical
    systems is the multimeter. Basic multimeters measures voltage, current and
    resistance, while more elaborate multimeters, such as the Fluke 78, or Fluke 88
    have featues that can check things such as frequency, duty cycle, dwell, make
    diode tests, and even measure temperature, pressure and vacuum."

    http://assets.fluke.com/appnotes/automotive/beatbook.pdf

    Of course, they list Fluke meters, but most tests will work with any DMM.
     
    Matt Ion, Dec 14, 2006
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  2. Those two meters are more or less an old school automotive tool that serve as
    better then having nothing kind of tool for automotive repair now days.
    Repairing cars now days without a good scan tool is a waste of money and time
    and even more so if you have a good scan tool not know how to use it.
     
    Captain_Howdy, Dec 14, 2006
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  3. Those two meters are more or less an old school automotive tool that serve as
    better then having nothing kind of tool for automotive repair now days.
    Repairing cars now days without a good scan tool is a waste of money and time
    and even more so if you have a good scan tool not know how to use it.
     
    Captain_Howdy, Dec 14, 2006
    #3
  4. Matt Ion

    sharx333 Guest

    Thanks matt, really useful..
     
    sharx333, Dec 14, 2006
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  5. Matt Ion

    sharx333 Guest

    Thanks matt, really useful..
     
    sharx333, Dec 14, 2006
    #5
  6. As somebody who isn't old-school at heart (I've been DIYing for nearly 40
    years but have worked on my own Toyota hybrids for four years now), I still
    get a lot more use out of a voltmeter than out of a scantool. Scantools are
    indispensable for retrieving codes, so there is a clear need for them, but
    once that is done the tool is set aside. Then comes the work of figuring out
    just what the codes are trying to tell you. Relatively few are as direct as
    "VSS sensor failed"; hunting down a "multiple cylinder random misfire" is
    more typical. The most frustrating intermittent I've faced in recent years
    was my Nissan that suffered sudden ignition failure for a few seconds to a
    few minutes half a dozen times a day for two months. The ECU said,
    "Everything's okay! Keep driving, boss!" It was a voltmeter that found the
    problem (intermittent connection on the low side of the ignition coil, so no
    voltage to ignitor) when it stayed bad long enough. But the ECU told me that
    everything it knew about was normal, so I looked past the ECU's reach.

    The value of a voltmeter is in the wide reach of the automotive electrical
    system. A DVM will tell you whether your charging system is working right or
    not, whether you have an open or shorted circuit in your fan or lights or
    door locks, whether the engine temperature or oil pressure sensor is
    actually bad. If nothing happens when you try to start the car and the
    lights won't even come on, a voltmeter is what you want. You might as well
    leave the scantool on the shelf, because it won't do anything.

    My point is that more tools are needed than ever. Scantools are some of the
    latest in the goody bag and every wrench should have access to one. I'd say
    the same of an oscilloscope, but that's a little harder core. Voltmeters -
    particularly DVMs - are still absolutely indispensable to any
    troubleshooter.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Dec 15, 2006
    #6
  7. As somebody who isn't old-school at heart (I've been DIYing for nearly 40
    years but have worked on my own Toyota hybrids for four years now), I still
    get a lot more use out of a voltmeter than out of a scantool. Scantools are
    indispensable for retrieving codes, so there is a clear need for them, but
    once that is done the tool is set aside. Then comes the work of figuring out
    just what the codes are trying to tell you. Relatively few are as direct as
    "VSS sensor failed"; hunting down a "multiple cylinder random misfire" is
    more typical. The most frustrating intermittent I've faced in recent years
    was my Nissan that suffered sudden ignition failure for a few seconds to a
    few minutes half a dozen times a day for two months. The ECU said,
    "Everything's okay! Keep driving, boss!" It was a voltmeter that found the
    problem (intermittent connection on the low side of the ignition coil, so no
    voltage to ignitor) when it stayed bad long enough. But the ECU told me that
    everything it knew about was normal, so I looked past the ECU's reach.

    The value of a voltmeter is in the wide reach of the automotive electrical
    system. A DVM will tell you whether your charging system is working right or
    not, whether you have an open or shorted circuit in your fan or lights or
    door locks, whether the engine temperature or oil pressure sensor is
    actually bad. If nothing happens when you try to start the car and the
    lights won't even come on, a voltmeter is what you want. You might as well
    leave the scantool on the shelf, because it won't do anything.

    My point is that more tools are needed than ever. Scantools are some of the
    latest in the goody bag and every wrench should have access to one. I'd say
    the same of an oscilloscope, but that's a little harder core. Voltmeters -
    particularly DVMs - are still absolutely indispensable to any
    troubleshooter.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Dec 15, 2006
    #7
  8. Matt Ion

    ellis_jay Guest

    Thanx.


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    Let the unseen day be. Today is more than enough.

    ___Sador the carpenter to Turin
    Tolkien, The Unfinished Tales

    Ellis_Jay
     
    ellis_jay, Jan 2, 2007
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  9. Matt Ion

    ellis_jay Guest

    Thanx.


    --

    Let the unseen day be. Today is more than enough.

    ___Sador the carpenter to Turin
    Tolkien, The Unfinished Tales

    Ellis_Jay
     
    ellis_jay, Jan 2, 2007
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