Cost of Transmission Fluid Flush

texas gets hotter than ca or nv? tx is more humid, but that just
affects wet stuff like humans, not sealed stuff like transmissions.
besides, ambient of 100F isn't exactly extreme for a lubricant.

record of tranny failures? 300k on an automatic? name a domestic
that'll regularly and reliably do 300k! i know there's issues with
modern hondas, but what about the 20-odd years prior to that? and
modern failures are gear design problems - nothing to do with excess
fluid contamination. buy a ford, then let's talk about the difference
being able to change the fluid seems to make...

 

But given some of the misbehaving trannies Honda has been turning out
the last few years, maybe a drain plug is worth the rather small cost
and effort involved.

J.

 

This brings up a good point. I wonder if you could put a drain on the
tranny that would do a better job, and if so, where?

BTW, I have sold two Accords with Auto trans with almost 200k on them, and
now one ever had a problem. And from what I know, they are still going
strong. I did change the fluid at the recommended intervals, and I NEVER
flushed one.

And in response to that other comment, I would agree, Honda's are NOT
prefect by far, but I find them to be the lesser of the evils. I have now
had 15 new Hondas on over 22 years. I commute, and I rack up miles. I have
had everything fro Civics to Accords. In those 15 cars, other than regular
maintenance, I have had the following expenses.

2001 Accord had a main oil seal let go at 115k, $10 part and $700 to get
replaced.
2001 Accord had to have a seat belt replaced because the SRS sensor in it
was bad, cost $120 installed.
94 Civic I got used had a Head Gasket go at 90k, cost $500
94 Civic, CV Joint Replacement.
94 Accord had a clutch warp. Complained when it was under warrant, so the
dealer replaced it long after the warranty, cost $0

I'm sure I have forgotten some minor under $50 items, but this has been my
major expenses other than normal brakes, timing belts, etc etc. Before
Honda, I used to spend a lot on a car after 70-80k miles.

G-Man



Anything else was less than $100.

 

That wouldn't have solved Honda's problems. The tranny problems went
deep into basic design flaws.

 

Sucker. Honda will replace seat belts for free, anytime.

You just didn't ask. My guess is your dealership pocketed the entire
$120, and passed the repair off to Honda warranty--who also paid for it
at their rate.

 

Wrong, they will not replace any electronic component on the SB. Only the
SB for safety reasons. Per Honda USA.

I didn't take it to the dealer either. Cost close to $200.

G-Man

 

Right. The dealer replaces the entire seat belt mechanism. It's not
rocket science.

And Honda warrants seat belts forever. They just replace the whole
thing. The dealership puts it in for warranty pay.

Maybe that's why you had to pay out of pocket.

Trust me, the mechanism that dealers have for paying for things like
this is well established, and the fact that Honda warrants seat belts
without question is well known.

Honda doesn't want to be caught on the end of any trouble, having
refused to replace a simple seat belt.

 

has nothing to do with the ability to drain fluid - they're fundamental
design problems.

 

Hi TeGGeR

I am sorry. It was actually CAN$ 25.5 for 0.30 hours. Slip of eye or
what you call it in English.

 

My concern is not the catastrophic failures but the (much more
widespread???) sticky shifting that does seem to be temporarily
relieved by new fluid.

Of course it's far from a fix, just a crude backup, way to get by.

J.

 

Hey Elmo!

Do you think that Honda will replace the slack seat belts in my '83 Civic?

<GGG>

JT

 

Bingo!

JT

 

Hey Elmo!

Do you think that Honda will replace the slack seat belts in my '83 Civic?[/QUOTE]

Try it. I bet they will.

It does depend on (a) your relationship with your dealer, (b) the
effectiveness of the dealer service manager, and (c) their relationship
with Honda.

But overall, regarding seat belts, I believe they will--if there's any
doubt that the seat belt is working correctly.

 

Try it. I bet they will.

It does depend on (a) your relationship with your dealer, (b) the
effectiveness of the dealer service manager, and (c) their relationship
with Honda.

But overall, regarding seat belts, I believe they will--if there's any
doubt that the seat belt is working correctly.[/QUOTE]



Thanks!

I'll give it a shot later this week. Anything to same me $$$$!!!

JT