[QUOTE="From: "alt.autos.honda group"] Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 19:06:41 +0000 ============================================================================== TOPIC: crank bolt tightening debate http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.honda/browse_thread/thread/611ca6332c3f50e ============================================================================== == 3 of 6 == Date: Sun 6 Nov 2005 09:50 From: "Michael Pardee" What muddies the comparison is that the cars were both old enough to have been through at least one timing belt change, so we don't know how diligent the mechanics were about retightening to the spec'd torque. It could be that the one who loctited the bolt also wimped out on the torque, relying on the loctite to hold the bolt. (Not good practice, but it happens.)[/QUOTE] This is a crucial point. Not only is unknown whether the timing belt changes were done correctly but it is also unknown where the parts came from. Therefore, all the provided "evidence" is worthless and cannot be used in an objective evaluation.