Crosstour

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by JRStern, Dec 15, 2009.

  1. JRStern

    tww1491 Guest

    What great memories. I also owned a 1970s Fiat 124 with the MC heads
    and it's trick was to short out in the coil, and come to a dead stop.
    The solution was to open up the cap and extend the spring, the end of
    which was burnt off, and good to go for another thousand miles. But
    it was fun, fun, fun to drive. It sounded like it was turning 7000
    RPM at all times, the tires made a screech around every turn. Going
    to the grocery store was like driving Monza, but the thing was that I
    loved that. Now, all I do, is sit in my Honda and have a quiet
    time.

    My furst Honda was a 1967 CL 77 scrambler in Japan. That experience was an
    insight to Honda and it's engineering -- bulletproof. In Dec 1968 at the
    Tokyo motorshow I was stunned (as many people were) by the Honda CB 750 four
    cylinder, with a disc brake no less, on a turnstile. I owned one later when
    I returned to the States. That motorcycle literally turned the bike world on
    it head and spelled the end for Norton, Triumph BSA and others. The 750 was
    dead reliable and a real performer--but did not handle as well as the
    British bikes. I remember the Fiat too -- lovely car. I still think of
    Honda as an engineering company that happens to build cars and motorcycles.
     
    tww1491, Dec 19, 2009
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  2. JRStern

    JRStern Guest

    Just glancing at the website, I couldn't tell if the ZDX was the
    Crosstour, it looked ... taller.

    But the basic TL is nearly a station wagon at this point, the rear
    window is higher and longer than the Accord.

    And I thought this crossover (!) car/SUV thing had already run its
    course. Guess not, as long as gas stays under $4/gallon.

    J.
     
    JRStern, Dec 19, 2009
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  3. JRStern

    jim beam Guest

    and that is the whole point of what i've been saying - you have an
    "opinion" but it's completely underinformed. where i come from, that's
    otherwise known as "bullshit".

    try not wasting electrons. you're plugged in to the net. you have
    access to google. freakin' well use it.
     
    jim beam, Dec 20, 2009
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  4. JRStern

    JRStern Guest

    back atcha.

    J.
     
    JRStern, Dec 20, 2009
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  5. JRStern

    jim beam Guest

    eh? you make the factual misstatements, but i'm the one that needs to
    do the homework? you've got yourself a significant reality problem
    there guy.
     
    jim beam, Dec 20, 2009
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    JRStern Guest

    the question my good man is to just who is making misstatements.

    J.
     
    JRStern, Dec 22, 2009
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  7. JRStern

    jim beam Guest

    if your reality problems persist, and if google isn't working for you
    [carefully snipped of course], you should try wikipedia. for example:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional
     
    jim beam, Dec 22, 2009
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  8. JRStern

    Dave Kelsen Guest

    Wow. Just wow. I've lived to hear Muhammed Ali call George Foreman a
    scientific boxer.

    Awesome.


    RFT!!!
    Dave Kelsen
     
    Dave Kelsen, Dec 22, 2009
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  9. JRStern

    jim beam Guest

    yet another one unable to differentiate style from content. are you
    susceptible to advertising dave? how about politics?

    bottom line, you may not /like/ the fact that i'm a pedantic asshole,
    but if the peak power of a motor is only 100rpm below a 7100rpm red
    line, it's ridiculous to be bleating about "lack of power" at less than
    4000rpm.

    now, you go ahead and waste some more electrons, but try not to get too
    confused.
     
    jim beam, Dec 22, 2009
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  10. JRStern

    JRStern Guest

    If the curve is flat the peak doesn't matter, what if the engine puts
    out 1 hp at 1000 rpm and 1.1 hp at 7100 rpm?

    Have a nice day.

    J.
     
    JRStern, Dec 23, 2009
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  11. JRStern

    jim beam Guest

    that's stunning.

    why do you post on subjects about which you clearly don't have the
    slightest clue? do you write nasa with thruster design critique on
    ares? i mean, knot even knowing what you don't know appears to be no
    barrier.
     
    jim beam, Dec 23, 2009
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  12. JRStern

    JRStern Guest

    you want more?

    it's torque that equates to acceleration, not horsepower.

    comment?



    I had a link ... has preentered values for S2000, chose S2000 have it
    draw the curve down to 2000rpm, press calculate, scroll up to the
    curves. torque peaks earlier than power, and that's the same general
    shape I can feel the Accord doing.

    http://vlsicad.ucsd.edu/~sharma/Potpourri/perf_est.html


    Y'know, your ignorance (and hysteria) is one thing, but googling
    around, I can't find a single clear and accurate explanation of this
    stuff. Waaay back in the day, Road and Track published power and
    torque curves, Car and Driver didn't, but Car and Driver had more
    entertaining writers. I guess nobody today groks numbers, you sure
    don't. But it was common knowledge out on the streets, too, it didn't
    take a physics degree or even high school math to parrot, "torque is
    acceleration". what depressing times we are living in.

    J.
     
    JRStern, Dec 23, 2009
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  13. JRStern

    jim beam Guest

    **** me dude - < 20 seconds.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque

    "I can't find a single clear and accurate explanation of this stuff"

    that's because you're /waaaaay/ out of your depth - you don't understand
    it when it's right in front of you.
     
    jim beam, Dec 23, 2009
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    Wade Guest

    Hey Guys [you know who you are],

    I have a silly little suggestion .....

    JUST STOP IT !!!

    For crying out loud, who wants to read all of your _________? Why not
    take it private between yourselves?
    Do you think most of us want to read your snide comments to each
    other. Do you think we care?

    ENOUGH ALREADY !!!

    Can we go back to talking about Hondas?

    Thank you in advance,
    Peace on earth and in this group.
     
    Wade, Dec 23, 2009
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