crv and J turns

Does anyone know if there will be adverse effects to the traction control
system as a result of doing J turns ( locking rear wheels)? I may be getting
a crv but would want to mess it up, and yes, I do alot of J tuns in the
winter.

Dan

 

What the F*** is a J turn?

Tom

 

An incomplete "U" turn?

 

Its when you reverse hard, flick the front around, and then move off
in the opposite direction to that you're facing. Also called the
reverse flick. no need for it ever to be done on public roads. About
the only use of it, is to retreat from an attacker in front of you.

 

That being said Dan I would need more of a vehicle than a CR-V to retreat
from an attacker. CR-V barely has enough power to get out of its own way,
and I own one.

Tom

 

Actually, I think the term for that is a "K" turn not a "J" turn. You back
up and go in the opposite direction. It looks like a bowed "K".

Richard

 

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Independant of the traction control, what you describe cannot be done in
an AWD version of the CR-V because the AWD will kick in (even in
reverse). You also can't yank the park brake to make the rear end swing
around, while going forward, because the AWD will do it's best to keep
the front and rear axles spinning at the same speed. . . You just end up
doing a 4-wheel drift (and if your brakes are good enough, you'll stall
a manual version).

You'll have to get a 2WD CR-V if you want to keep doing that trick.
Sorry :-(

'Curly'

 

I've never heward of a 'k-turn' - every course i've been on,
instruction video/book i've seen, its called a J turn, as in thats the
shape you do in reverse

 

I've always heard it referred to as a K turn but when I draw it out it looks
more like a J.

 

This may be a regional or area thing. I'm originally from NYC and it was
called a "K" turn when I was learning to drive. Not really a big deal if
you get down to it. It describes the same maneuver.

 

Actually a J turn is when you reef on the hand/parking brake, after flicking
the wheel and doing a 180.
Why some people confuse a J turn, and the other manouver is beyind me,
( no offense intended) but the reverse manouver soesn't look like a J when
performed. I actaully call the reverse manouver a Rockford, after Jim
Rockford's famous reverse manouver.

I dive alot in snowy conditions, and in some circustances, the J turn,
saves me from stopping, or from loosing front end control. On snow covered
roads it's quite safe, and with my civic, I can do it at at almost any
speed, usually at under 10 mph.

 

Thanks, that's not the answer I was hoping for, but it's an answer to my
query.

Cheers
Dan

 

I could be wrong, but isn't this type of thing murder on at least some Honda
automatic transmissions? My daughter's 93 Accord owner's manual warns
strenuously about not engaging forward gears when moving backward or reverse
when moving forward - if stuck in snow it must not be rocked, but must be
towed.

Mike

 

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Dan is describing something I used to do all the time before I got a
CR-V. Example: Car is facing wrong way on ice-covered driveway, no place
to turn around because of snowbanks. Too lazy to go 300' to end of
driveway and back up all the way to the garage. Drive forward, crank
wheel hard to the left, yanking park brake . . . . rear of car swings
around an you've done a 'J' turn, as Dan calls it. Load on tranny is the
same as hitting the brakes (actually less since front wheels keep moving
a bit)

I think you're still stuck on the image of that 'backwards Cop-turn
thing', whatever it's called.

'Curly'

 

"Bootlegger's turn" is the name. Source is obvious.

Bootleggers used to remove the pawl that locked the foot-operated parking
brake on, allowing the driver to stomp the pedal as though it were a rear-
wheel-only brake, which it was.

 

Actually, more common name is 'handbrake turn'

Of course, this is different from a j-turn (and much easier too) going
forward and spinning the back of the car is easier than going
backwards and spinning the front of the car.