Dark Side of Hybrid Vehicles

/please/ read sci.materials abe. pretty please?

 

Look, jim, Uncle Al won't convince me that it's unworkable (though I
gotta say his "shitanium" comment in anotehr thread had me in stitches).
So there are technical challenges to surmount? So it's currently an
expensive proposition? So it may not be the most efficient thing around?
Does that make it impossible? No.

I'm not much invested in the issue, frankly. Haven't explored the Honda
FCX stuff either, actually, just ran across it today for the first time.
I'm not saying it's safe, and am quite willing to accept that there are
dangers. I do intend to keep an open mind about it. One of these decades
we're gonna run out of oil (or the surface of the earth will sink into
the void we've left behind by pumping it all out <g>), and we need to
pursue alteratives.

 

Abeness said

Don't believe everything you see on the Internet. That is a
"manufactured" composite using an altered photo of this submarine
manuvering room console:

http://home.att.net/~jeff1_satobserve/photo17.htm


The whole story is at:

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/computer.asp



Casey

 

"While the greenies and their flunkies in the so-called major media
palpitate over the future of the hybrid..."

I got this far. Brock Yates is past his shelf life.

 

Only when Chief Brody shot one at the conclusion of "Jaws".

 

Get used to it - ultimately everything will be programmed (but not by
Microsoft, please, God).

 

dang, why do you need to buy Honda civic hybrid if you can buy Honda
jazz with comparable MPG? lol...........

i definitely would prefer honda jazz with lower engine that has
comparable MPG...LOL

 

Hah hah, thanks for refs, Casey. Normally I don't, but this one
apparently slipped under the radar. In any case, my opinion re: progress
remains.

 

Amen, Brother Sparky. Reminds me of that old "if your car ran MS Windows
3.1..." gag that circulated by email many years ago. Was pretty funny.

 

Hmmm. I am as skeptical of "marketing" as anyone but I really don't
think that people are buying the word, 'hybrid.' Some buyers like the
high milage/green benefits. Others like the technology. I don't
think anyone is buying because they like the word.

 

So could someone please summarize this dirty little secret?

 

what ya expect from a rich, fat, old, alcoholic white man? dudes got a
nose like WC fields...

 

jazz not available yet, and some peeps need to sport their "eco-bling"

 

no, it's not impossible, but neither is actively reducing the mercury
content of the oceans or mining manganese from the moon. it's just
wildly dangerous and spectacularly uneconomic. sounds great politically
though, that /that's/ what the whole hydrogen car hoopla is all about.
and the extraction of "research funds" of course.

 

About what the article said.

Oy!

 

But Honda's system doesn't work nearly as well. The Accord Hybrid is
almost a joke with its tiny 15HP electric motor. It can go on full
assist at 20MPH and you don't feel any acceleration.

 

One might have said the same about acetylene. There are ways to solve
the pressure problems. Some have already been discovered and are
waiting for technology improvements. There may be even simpler
solutions in the future.

 

But Honda's system doesn't work nearly as well.[/QUOTE]

As in "not as efficient," I agree. But in the real world, it's better
to tradeoff the complexity of the Toyota system and get something that's
less efficient but simpler in execution.

 

Abeness said

This seems to be one of the ones that slips under most people's radar.
I've overheard conversations where the topic was that "crazy-looking
idea for a home computer with a steering wheel". It does look just
like something out of an old Popular Science magazine.


Casey