Dash/Parking/Tail Light Delay???

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Chris, Sep 16, 2004.

  1. Chris

    Chris Guest

    Hi
    I have a 1992 Accord EX Coupe with an issue thats driving me nuts.
    Doing a search in archives- I think I found a solution but not 100%
    sure.

    Now that it is dark when I leave in AM- I turn on the parking lights
    with the stalk mounted switch. There is anywhere from a 15 second to
    almost a minute delay in the parking lights, tail lights, and dash
    lights turning on.

    When I go to headlights- the dash lights turn out for another 15 to 20
    seconds then they come on. I can only assume my park/tail lights go
    out as well, and come back up with the dash lights.

    Also- after going down the road for a while and then using my
    directional- I will get a flash from the clock illumination if I
    haven't used the directionals in a bit of time.

    Going back in time about 4 years ago here in a.b.honda- there were a
    couple other guys that seemed to have the same issue. Some thought it
    was the dimmer switch, but I don't think there was ever a final
    answer. Besides- WHICH dimmer switch was it- the dash mounted dimmer
    for the dash illumination, or the stalk mounted switch for turning on
    headlights and dimming high/low beams.

    Both appear to be a challenge to get at and either replace or clean.


    Thanks,
    Chris
     
    Chris, Sep 16, 2004
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  2. Chris

    Randolph Guest

    The cause of the delay is almost certainly the main light switch, the
    one with "off", "parking lights" and "head lights" positions. The
    internals are lightly coated with a lubricant from the factory, and with
    time this lubricant picks up dust and and may attract moisture. This
    makes it change viscosity from that of light sewing machine oil to that
    of dark molasses. It usually gets worse as it gets colder. Replacing the
    switch is one way to go, but if you are blessed with some manual
    dexterity, you may be able to remove, disassemble and clean the one you
    have. The whole switch is only about $36 from
    http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com, so I'd spring for a new one.

    The clock light flash is more of a mystery. Does this happen only with
    the light switch in "Parking lights" or "Head lights" positions? If so,
    what is probably happening is that activating the directionals cause the
    parking lights to blip "off" for a fraction of a second, thus restoring
    the clock illumination to the full, daytime level. If so, replacing the
    switch in order to fix the delay problem will also fix the clock flash
    problem. If you want to investigate a little further, find yourself a
    dark, cold morning and turn your dash lights brightness controller to
    full. Then check if the flashing of the clock light coincides with a
    momentary loss of instrument lights. This will be the case if my theory
    is right.

    See the above referenced web site for an exploded view of the various
    hardware around the steering column. Look under "Combination switch".
    The remove the switch, (and this is general Honda info, I have never
    worked on a '92 Accord) you typically have to remove the upper and lower
    steering column plastic trim pieces. Usually these are held in place
    with a number of screws accessible from below, and sometimes also snaps
    integrated in the parts. Snaps can be a pain. It may be necessary, or at
    least simplify access, to remove the lower dash trim on the driver's
    side. Usually a couple of screws, often hidden behind coin pockets etc,
    and some snaps.
     
    Randolph, Sep 16, 2004
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  3. Chris

    Chris Guest

    WOW-Thanks!
    I had a suspicion that knowing my luck- it would be the column mounted
    stalk switch. I just assumed that to get at it- one would need to pull
    the wheel. With air bags- I didn't want to even play there!

    Actually- the 2 folks who posted here back in 2000 also had the same
    clock blink issue when their lights did the delay routine- just as
    mine do. This is during normal drive with headlights on.

    I will check out the web site, and I know there are enthusiast sites
    should I actually need guidance with the wheel.


    Chris
     
    Chris, Sep 16, 2004
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  4. Chris

    Bender Guest

    I've had similar problem - Honda Civic 88 Wagon, lowbeams are slow to
    come on, the slower the colder the weather is. Nothing else is
    affected though. It could take up to 2 minutes for the headlight to
    come on.

    Here's what it turned out to be for me - grease somehow got in on of
    the springs that pressed the contacts together in the multifuction
    switch (the one that's located on the steering wheel shaft under the
    steering wheel). When it got cold the grease hardened and the spring
    would depress very slowly. I could feel it being kind of sluggish even
    at room temperature.

    All I did was disassemble the switch, sprayed a stream of PepBoys
    super-lubricant in the spring (it's trapped inside the piece, so
    there's no way to get it out) for a while till grease was mostly gone.
    Then I wiped it clean, assembled the switch back and it now works like
    a charm.
     
    Bender, Oct 13, 2004
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