"Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey

Discussion in 'Odyssey' started by Mayday, Aug 11, 2004.

  1. Mayday

    Mayday Guest

    My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
    solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179. He says it's due to the
    cheap gas and, god forbid, the carbon migrate all the way to the catalytic
    converter.

    I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before the
    cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...

    But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?

    Thanks
     
    Mayday, Aug 11, 2004
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  2. Mayday

    Josh Guest

    You can do it yourself if you're the least bit handy with an $8 bottle of
    throttle body cleaner. Oh, and avoid the $200 "injector" service. You can do
    that too with a $4 bottle of Techron.

    Josh
     
    Josh, Aug 11, 2004
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  3. Mayday

    Josh Guest

    You can do it yourself if you're the least bit handy with an $8 bottle of
    throttle body cleaner. Oh, and avoid the $200 "injector" service. You can do
    that too with a $4 bottle of Techron.

    Josh
     
    Josh, Aug 11, 2004
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  4. Mayday

    JXStern Guest

    Or just buy better gas for a few weeks, or, y'know, always.

    I guess the issue is whether this is "de-carbonizing", or
    "de-gunking".

    J.
     
    JXStern, Aug 11, 2004
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  5. Mayday

    JXStern Guest

    Or just buy better gas for a few weeks, or, y'know, always.

    I guess the issue is whether this is "de-carbonizing", or
    "de-gunking".

    J.
     
    JXStern, Aug 11, 2004
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  6. Mayday

    Sparky Guest

    Or "de-dollaring".
     
    Sparky, Aug 11, 2004
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  7. Mayday

    Sparky Guest

    Or "de-dollaring".
     
    Sparky, Aug 11, 2004
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  8. It's not a big deal - the only symptom I've seen of this gunked up throttle
    body is a sticking accelerator when cold: you press on the pedal and it
    feels sticky and when it lets go the car lurches a bit. IME I haven't seen
    this on non-EGR cars so I figure that's at least partly responsible for the
    gunk build-up.

    $179. seems excessive for what's required - remove the rubber intake from
    the throttle body, hold the throttle plate open, spray with TB cleaner and
    brush with a toothbrush, wipe off with a clean rag. It shouldn't take more
    than 30mins - 15mins with practice.

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Aug 11, 2004
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  9. It's not a big deal - the only symptom I've seen of this gunked up throttle
    body is a sticking accelerator when cold: you press on the pedal and it
    feels sticky and when it lets go the car lurches a bit. IME I haven't seen
    this on non-EGR cars so I figure that's at least partly responsible for the
    gunk build-up.

    $179. seems excessive for what's required - remove the rubber intake from
    the throttle body, hold the throttle plate open, spray with TB cleaner and
    brush with a toothbrush, wipe off with a clean rag. It shouldn't take more
    than 30mins - 15mins with practice.

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Aug 11, 2004
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  10. EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) Valve sends back some of those
    unburnt/not entirely consumed sooty exhaust gases back through your
    throttle body for better emissions.
     
    Lane Jennison, Aug 11, 2004
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  11. EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) Valve sends back some of those
    unburnt/not entirely consumed sooty exhaust gases back through your
    throttle body for better emissions.
     
    Lane Jennison, Aug 11, 2004
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  12. Mayday

    Paul Guest

    : My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
    : solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179. He says it's due to the
    : cheap gas and, god forbid, the carbon migrate all the way to the catalytic
    : converter.
    :
    : I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before
    the
    : cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...
    :
    : But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?
    :
    : Thanks
    :
    I recently had the throttle body of my 2000 Accord cleaned by my local shop.
    They told me my sticky throttle was a result of using "cheap gas." Well,
    maybe. They charged me $64, and I don't have a sticky throttle anymore. $179
    every two years seems excessive, especially since you didn't say you're
    actually having any throttle body-related problems. I'd get a quote from a
    good independent shop if I were you.

    I have decided to use only Chevron gas from now on, as a precaution. We'll
    see if it helps. Oddly, the prices at one of the local Chevron stations are
    as good as or in some cases better than the prices at the "cheap gas"
    stations.

    Paul
     
    Paul, Aug 11, 2004
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  13. It is worth it to your dealer to recommend this worthless service. They
    make a hefty profit. A good way to double check this is to look at the
    service schedule that came with your car. See if this so called service
    is needed.
     
    Alex Rodriguez, Aug 11, 2004
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  14. It is worth it to your dealer to recommend this worthless service. They
    make a hefty profit. A good way to double check this is to look at the
    service schedule that came with your car. See if this so called service
    is needed.
     
    Alex Rodriguez, Aug 11, 2004
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  15. Mayday

    Mayday Guest

    LOL. When I said "cheap" gas, I guess I meant "lower quality". I buy what
    I think is good, "name brand" gas. The dealer says Florida has less
    stringent gas requirements than some place like California and hence we get
    a lower quality of gas.
     
    Mayday, Aug 11, 2004
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  16. Mayday

    Mayday Guest

    LOL. When I said "cheap" gas, I guess I meant "lower quality". I buy what
    I think is good, "name brand" gas. The dealer says Florida has less
    stringent gas requirements than some place like California and hence we get
    a lower quality of gas.
     
    Mayday, Aug 11, 2004
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  17. Absolutely. It is worth every bit of $179 to your dealer.
     
    Gordon McGrew, Aug 12, 2004
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  18. Absolutely. It is worth every bit of $179 to your dealer.
     
    Gordon McGrew, Aug 12, 2004
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  19. Yikes. Stay away.

    It's true, throttle bodies can get gunked up--and the old style Odyssey
    and its brother the Accord are famous for that. But a throttle body
    clean is nowhere near $179 at any reputable dealer. It's a half hour or
    so labor, maybe a bit more. That's it.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Aug 12, 2004
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  20. Yikes. Stay away.

    It's true, throttle bodies can get gunked up--and the old style Odyssey
    and its brother the Accord are famous for that. But a throttle body
    clean is nowhere near $179 at any reputable dealer. It's a half hour or
    so labor, maybe a bit more. That's it.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Aug 12, 2004
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