DIY Hatch Glass

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by MAT, Jun 5, 2005.

  1. MAT

    MAT Guest

    Hondarinos,

    I was spending a pleasant afternoon at my folks' house installing my new
    suspension kit and everything was going great, finished up the front and was
    raising the rear when I hear a BOOM and glass cascading down!!! My car was
    a bumper length sticking out of the garage and the hatch was up, the rear
    wiper levered against the top of the garage and the rest was history. So
    after the shock and the 36 syllable hybrid curse that left my mouth I had a
    beer and finished up.

    I want to order the glass and miscellanea and install it myself. I've
    looked at the FSM and it looks pretty doable. Any gotchas with this? Is
    the adhesive difficult to work with and easily obtainable? Are the suction
    cups readily available and affordable? My insurance deductible is 500 and I
    don't think I have a glass clause. After some of the stuff I've read and a
    news report about shoddy workmanship, I'd rather try it myself. I love my
    car and would rather keep it away from unloving hands unless I absolutely
    need to. Thanks.

    Marco
     
    MAT, Jun 5, 2005
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  2. I haven't done anything like that, and you may already know this warning...
    the glass is tempered and needs to be protected from sudden temperature
    changes or it will go BOOM before you even get it installed. You don't have
    to baby it, but if it is very hot from being in the sun or in the closed car
    and you bring it into a cool house or spray it with glass cleaner it might
    take offense.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jun 5, 2005
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  3. I haven't done anything like that, and you may already know this warning...
    the glass is tempered and needs to be protected from sudden temperature
    changes or it will go BOOM before you even get it installed. You don't have
    to baby it, but if it is very hot from being in the sun or in the closed car
    and you bring it into a cool house or spray it with glass cleaner it might
    take offense.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jun 5, 2005
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  4. MAT

    Eric Guest

    You can find an assortment of suction cups at http://tinyurl.com/bysuz.
    However, keep in mind that you might be able to find a better price through
    different sources such as http://www.etoolcart.com/.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Jun 5, 2005
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  5. MAT

    Eric Guest

    You can find an assortment of suction cups at http://tinyurl.com/bysuz.
    However, keep in mind that you might be able to find a better price through
    different sources such as http://www.etoolcart.com/.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Jun 5, 2005
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  6. Are you confidant about installing it without leaks? I'd get at least a
    couple of quotes from auto glass places before trying this one.

    YMMV, of course.
     
    Sparky Spartacus, Jun 5, 2005
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  7. Are you confidant about installing it without leaks? I'd get at least a
    couple of quotes from auto glass places before trying this one.

    YMMV, of course.
     
    Sparky Spartacus, Jun 5, 2005
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    Brian Smith Guest

    I would go to a glass company and pay them to replace the glass. That way it
    is covered by a warranty (if it leaks or breaks). It's far easier to do it
    that way than to risk breaking the glass before you complete the DIY
    installation, and there are no tools to purchase. Not to mention no cleanup.

    Brian
     
    Brian Smith, Jun 5, 2005
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  9. MAT

    Brian Smith Guest

    I would go to a glass company and pay them to replace the glass. That way it
    is covered by a warranty (if it leaks or breaks). It's far easier to do it
    that way than to risk breaking the glass before you complete the DIY
    installation, and there are no tools to purchase. Not to mention no cleanup.

    Brian
     
    Brian Smith, Jun 5, 2005
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    jim beam Guest

    if this were an older car, the type with the fat rubber gasket holding
    the glass in, it would be relatively easy to do it yourself. but in
    this case, it's quite a tricky process. unless you have access to the
    tools & adhesives necessary for this job, and the window sealant sold at
    auto supply stores isn't up to it, then i suggest having the glass shop
    do it. there's not much i won't do on a car myself, but certain jobs
    are best left to those set up to do them properly. paint, alignment,
    tires & [honda] glass are on that list.
     
    jim beam, Jun 5, 2005
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  11. MAT

    jim beam Guest

    if this were an older car, the type with the fat rubber gasket holding
    the glass in, it would be relatively easy to do it yourself. but in
    this case, it's quite a tricky process. unless you have access to the
    tools & adhesives necessary for this job, and the window sealant sold at
    auto supply stores isn't up to it, then i suggest having the glass shop
    do it. there's not much i won't do on a car myself, but certain jobs
    are best left to those set up to do them properly. paint, alignment,
    tires & [honda] glass are on that list.
     
    jim beam, Jun 5, 2005
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  12. MAT

    Jim Yanik Guest

    Harbor Freight sells them for $5 USD,IIRC.
     
    Jim Yanik, Jun 5, 2005
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  13. MAT

    Jim Yanik Guest

    Harbor Freight sells them for $5 USD,IIRC.
     
    Jim Yanik, Jun 5, 2005
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    Milleron Guest

    Mike,
    You're describing how UNtempered glass would behave with sudden
    changes in temperature. The tempering process makes the glass more
    tolerant of sudden temperature changes, not less tolerant. Hence,
    glassware used in labs is tempered. Tempering also makes the glass
    break into small chunks, that don't have sharp edges, when it fails
    under mechanical stress, and that's the main reason it's used in auto
    windows -- so it doesn't turn into a bunch of razor-sharp blades in
    accidents. Some local building codes require that first-floor
    residential windows be made from tempered glass for the same reason.



    Ron
     
    Milleron, Jun 5, 2005
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    SoCalMike Guest

    shower doors as well.
     
    SoCalMike, Jun 5, 2005
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  16. MAT

    MAT Guest

    Now that I've slept on it, I've placed a claim with insurance and will
    handle it that way. My comprehensive deductable is 250, not as bad as the
    500 collision deductable. Thanks for the advise. What a bonehead move it
    was that day. How utterly frustrating and embarassing more than anything!
     
    MAT, Jun 6, 2005
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  17. MAT

    MAT Guest

    Now that I've slept on it, I've placed a claim with insurance and will
    handle it that way. My comprehensive deductable is 250, not as bad as the
    500 collision deductable. Thanks for the advise. What a bonehead move it
    was that day. How utterly frustrating and embarassing more than anything!
     
    MAT, Jun 6, 2005
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  18. MAT

    Casey Guest

    MAT said
    I wouldn't place a claim with insurance - it could come back to haunt
    you. How much over the $250 is the replacement going to cost?

    Two of the most common words found in insurance non-renewal notices -
    "claims frequency".

    You're better off paying minor things out of your pocket and only
    filing claims for the big things.



    Casey
     
    Casey, Jun 6, 2005
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  19. MAT

    Casey Guest

    MAT said
    I wouldn't place a claim with insurance - it could come back to haunt
    you. How much over the $250 is the replacement going to cost?

    Two of the most common words found in insurance non-renewal notices -
    "claims frequency".

    You're better off paying minor things out of your pocket and only
    filing claims for the big things.



    Casey
     
    Casey, Jun 6, 2005
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    jmattis Guest

    Like my uncle once said, "Anybody who's never been caught never has
    done anything."
     
    jmattis, Jun 6, 2005
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