Do it yourself or dealer?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by techjohnny, Apr 10, 2008.

  1. techjohnny

    techjohnny Guest

    Hello, Group:

    Need to change my transmission fluid (been almost 100K), the shop
    charges $100 for a transmission flush, so could I do it myself my much
    cheaper, and is the hassle worth it to save the money/

    I own a 98 4cyc EX Honda Accord, and I've never changed my
    transmission fluid myself.

    --TJ
     
    techjohnny, Apr 10, 2008
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  2. techjohnny

    Butch Haynes Guest

    I think the operative watchword is "flush". Drain/refill would be easy-- but
    I'd think you need pressure and a way to seal the opening to flush...
     
    Butch Haynes, Apr 10, 2008
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  3. techjohnny

    motsco_ Guest

    ====================

    Don't use the word FLUSH. It's a drain-n-fill. Read this:

    http://www.hondasuv.com/members/showthread.php?t=22479&

    Buy 9 or 10 quarts of Honda Z1. Warm it up (shut it off) and remove the
    filler plug / dipstick, remove the drain plug SLOWLY and drain into a
    LARGE paint roller pan or similar. Wipe off the VERY COATED magnetic
    drain plug. Refill with same amount removed. Do it again tomorrow or
    next weekend or after running it through the gears for a minute. Do it
    again.

    The longer you wait before doing it again, the more magnetic particles
    you will catch, but it's probably no biggie.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, Apr 10, 2008
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  4. techjohnny

    Woody Guest

    If you let someone do a flush on that old a transmission you can kiss it
    goodbye as it will dislodge a lot of buildup in the transmission. Just do a
    drain and fill several times driving it in between. How difficult depends on
    your mechanical skills and no one can answer that except you.
     
    Woody, Apr 10, 2008
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  5. techjohnny

    jim beam Guest


    do NOT allow them to flush. seriously. just drain and fill, like it
    says in the honda workshop manual. easy to do yourself. do it two or
    three times, leave a week or so between each time.
     
    jim beam, Apr 11, 2008
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  6. techjohnny

    trailer Guest

    follow up question-
    if you purchase 9-10 quarts of fluid each time to drain/refill, and you do
    this 2-3 times, wouldn't it be almost as cheap to have the dealer do this?

    2008 Ridgeline

    Thanks
    ====================

    Don't use the word FLUSH. It's a drain-n-fill. Read this:

    http://www.hondasuv.com/members/showthread.php?t=22479&

    Buy 9 or 10 quarts of Honda Z1. Warm it up (shut it off) and remove the
    filler plug / dipstick, remove the drain plug SLOWLY and drain into a
    LARGE paint roller pan or similar. Wipe off the VERY COATED magnetic
    drain plug. Refill with same amount removed. Do it again tomorrow or
    next weekend or after running it through the gears for a minute. Do it
    again.

    The longer you wait before doing it again, the more magnetic particles
    you will catch, but it's probably no biggie.

    'Curly'
     
    trailer, Apr 11, 2008
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  7. techjohnny

    motsco_ Guest

    ------------------

    It takes just over 3 quarts each time x 3 = 9 or 10. I suggested buying
    it all at the same time . . .You might even ask for a volume discount on
    10 bottles.

    If you drain it overnight you can 'coax' a bit more out.

    No substitutes (that's always the next question).

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, Apr 11, 2008
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    trailer Guest

    thanks Curly, good info...
    ------------------

    It takes just over 3 quarts each time x 3 = 9 or 10. I suggested buying
    it all at the same time . . .You might even ask for a volume discount on
    10 bottles.

    If you drain it overnight you can 'coax' a bit more out.

    No substitutes (that's always the next question).

    'Curly'
     
    trailer, Apr 11, 2008
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  9. techjohnny

    nick Guest

    And this is long overdue so either do it yourself or pay $300 and do
    it 3 times by the dealer, otherwise you can kiss you transmission
    goodbye.

    I'm a little more cautious and change the washer each time I do a
    drain an fill...runs me an additional 1.50 for each one.
     
    nick, Apr 12, 2008
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  10. techjohnny

    jim beam Guest

    i think that's a little over-doing it nick. friends of mine drove an
    accord 360k miles, automatic, never changed the atf. if anything, the
    fact that they didn't probably helped compared with garages that insist
    on flushing with non-honda fluid which /is/ known to be a problem.

    should he change? sure. will it fall apart tomorrow if he doesn't?
    absolutely not. and the transmission on my friend's accord was still
    doing strong when they got rid of it.
     
    jim beam, Apr 12, 2008
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  11. techjohnny

    nick Guest

    I don't know but I don't want to chance killing my transmission if I
    can prevent it with $20 of fluid every 30k miles. BMW says that you
    never need to change the fluid, and I've heard of failures around
    60-80k miles on some of them.

    I usually only do one drain and fill every 30k miles instead of what
    some others do which is a drain and fill every 3 times. Also you may
    want to have a look at the driveaccord forum as people have been doing
    drain and fills in their Gen 7 Accords and Gen 8 Civics at 15k miles
    as there were some issues with the shifting of 3rd gear. Some have
    said that it has resolved the problem but only to appear again after
    another 15k miles.
     
    nick, Apr 12, 2008
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  12. techjohnny

    jim beam Guest

    it's usually a little higher, but yes, that particular manufacturer
    /very/ tightly controls product longevity. no drain plugs there.

    maybe - the later generations have had all kinds of problems. but from
    a technical viewpoint, and assuming there's no mechanical problem,
    there's no real reason to change the oil too often. it's filtered and
    the drain plug magnet traps all the large particulates, etc. my crx,
    which had had no discernible transmission maintenance before i bought it
    at 103k miles, had brown fluid when i changed it. but beyond that, it
    was fine. and there was only a little particulate matter on the magnet.
     
    jim beam, Apr 13, 2008
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    TomP Guest

    The only thing that should get flushed it the toilet...

    Ok, flushing or cleaning would be permitted during the repair of a closed
    loop system (of any nature) for the purpose of removing debris caused from
    a catastrophic failure.
     
    TomP, Apr 13, 2008
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