Don't buy gas from Shell or Petro Canada ~ Canadians unite!

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Lower_gas_prices, Apr 15, 2004.

  1. Don't know if this will work...but I don't want too pay 1.42 a litre!!!!
    Worth a try!!

    I hear we are going to hit close to a $1.42 a Litre by the summer.Want
    gasoline prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united
    action. Phillip Hollsworth, offered this good idea: This makes MUCH MORE
    SENSE than the don't buy gas on a certain day campaign that was going around
    last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew
    we wouldn't continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy gas.It was more of
    an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought
    of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work. Please read it
    and join with us!

    By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $.80 a litre is
    super cheap. Me too! It is currently .78 to .89 depending on what day it
    is,for regular unleaded gas in Montreal, Qc. We all know that we're being
    screwed by the oil companies. Does everyone remember how they drove up the
    prices way past a dollar and got the gas prices to where they wanted them,
    claiming there was a shortage of oil. Well, there isn't any shortage now,
    and the oil is more abundant than it was 35 years ago when the price of a
    litre of gas was 29 cents!!! Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations
    have conditioned us to think that the cost of a litre of gas is CHEAP at
    $0.78-$0.85, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS
    control the marketplace....not sellers. With the price of gasoline going up
    more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going
    to see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by
    not purchasing their gas! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. How?
    Since we all rely on our cars, we cant just stop buying gas. But we CAN have
    an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a price war.Heres
    the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the
    two biggest companies (which now are one), PETRO CANADA, SHELL. If they are
    not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they
    reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to
    have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of PETRO CANADA and
    SHELL buyers. Its really simple to do!! Now, don't whimp out on me at this
    point...keep reading and Ill explain how simple it is to reach millions of
    people!!

    I am sending this note to at least thirty people. If each of you send it to
    at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) ... and those 300 send it to at least ten
    more (300 x 10 = 3,000)...and so on, by the time the message reaches the
    sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION
    consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten
    friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes
    one level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!
    Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all (If you
    don't understand how we can reach 300 million and all you have to do is send
    this to 10 people... Well, lets face it, you just aren't a Mathematician.
    But I am. so trust me on this one.) How long would all that take? If each of
    us sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all
    300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!!
    Ill bet you I didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you!
    Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please
    pass this message on.

    PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $0.64 OR LESS
    RANGE AND KEEP THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK!!!!!!!
    PLEASE take a few minutes and pass this on to everyone you know!! If
    you can't e-mail it to at least ten people, please print out a bunch of
    copies
    and hand it out to your family and friends!!



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    Joanne Kursikowski
    Dept. Secretary
    Centre for Education in Mathematics and Computing
    Faculty of Mathematics
    University of Waterloo
    Waterloo ON CANADA N2L 3G1
    519-888-4808
    FAX NO. 519-746-6592
     
    Lower_gas_prices, Apr 15, 2004
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    Mike Smith Guest

    No it isn't. Fuel prices are rising everywhere, because OPEC has raised
    the price of crude, not because Shell or Petro Canada feel like screwing
    you.
    You're being screwed more by your own government. Most of that 85-ish
    cents per litre is tax. Here in New York we pay about $1.80 US per
    gallon, or 47 cents (US, = 63 cents Canadian) per litre, and even that
    already contains quite a bit of tax.
    Uh, huh. And how much inflation has there been in the last 35 years? A
    lot more than 85 divided by 29. Adjusted for inflation, gas is much,
    *much* cheaper now than it was 35 years ago.
    That's pretty amazing, since there are nowhere near 300 million people
    in Canada.
    No it can't. Don't be a moron.
    Speaking of which, there goes a few minutes I'll never get back...
     
    Mike Smith, Apr 15, 2004
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    Gus Guest

    Independent variables - both may be true.
     
    Gus, Apr 15, 2004
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    Jen Guest

    Worldwide prices have gone up, so that one IS true. As far as screwing
    the customer is concerned, you know that every merchant will try to
    get the best buck for their products. Furthermore, if the merchant
    doesn't apply his mind to that goal all the time, he will most likely
    go out of business pretty soon. But competition is so fierce in the
    oil business, that margins are kept very low despite the desire to
    maximize profits.

    Don't believe it? Buy some oil company stock then. As a part-owner,
    you will learn how big their profits are each year, and you will
    participate in this profit making.

    J.
     
    Jen, Apr 15, 2004
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  5. No it won't.... work! Have you never heard of bartering? Petroleum
    companies do it all the time.
    Here in NJ we are currently paying ~$1.75/gal. for regular gas. The spot
    price of benchmark crudes has been hovering close to US$40./barrel; there
    are 42 USgals/barrel; it costs $$ to refine crude into gasoline and
    transport it to the consumer point. You figure it out.

    You know all those jobs which are migrating through outsourcing to
    India?... all the electronics manufacturing jobs being shuttled to China?
    What do you think the Indian, Chinese, et.al. workers are going to do with
    the money they earn? Do you know what the most coveted item is on any
    world citizen's wish list following food, clothing & shelter? Uhh, it's
    gonna get worse.

    If you have a problem with your govt.'s fuel taxes take it up with them.
    Specifically, you might suggest that you resent paying a tax which the
    govt. then turns around and uses to finance operations and propaganda
    against you as a motorist.

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Apr 16, 2004
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    Pars Guest

    1.42 per litre. That sounds like good news. Perhaps now we'll see less SUV's on
    the road.

    Pars
     
    Pars, Apr 16, 2004
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    Gus Guest

    I'd rather see a link or two to support your claim that "competition is
    so fierce in the oil business, that margins are kept very low despite
    the desire to maximize profits".
     
    Gus, Apr 16, 2004
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    darren Guest

    .... This "bitching" guy obviously drives an SUV.

    Funny how Americans are so economically independent apart from one of there
    own self inflicted nemesis - self divulgence in oil consumption... that will
    be their downfall.
     
    darren, Apr 16, 2004
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    Rex B Guest

    ||... This "bitching" guy obviously drives an SUV.
    ||
    ||Funny how Americans are so economically independent apart from one of there
    ||own self inflicted nemesis - self divulgence in oil consumption... that will
    ||be their downfall.

    Every country has people who consume excessively, without regard for resources,
    because they can afford to. Americans are no different, except that our society
    makes it possible for more people to make those kinds of choices.
    Rex in Fort Worth
     
    Rex B, Apr 16, 2004
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  10. There's no need for "links" - just look around and use Google if need be.
    Check the price of crude oil then price of gasoline and other downstream
    petroleum products. Where else can you find a complex, finished product
    with such a low ratio of consumer price to raw material cost. Check the
    number of independent refiners left - they just could not survive in the
    market, particularly under the burden of govt. mandated recipes for their
    products. The capital required just wasn't there.

    Also check out the futures market on gasoline and other petroleum products
    -- a lot of your money ends up in the pockets of speculators -- to get an
    idea where we are and where we're heading. We've just had a relatively
    hard Winter in the N.E. USA so, following the usual patterns, there should
    be a minor excess of gasoline "stock" right now. As that stock runs down
    under the usual Summer consumption pattern, the prices will only go up. If
    any of the Arab producers take it into their head to retaliate, even in a
    minor way, for Dubya suddenly donating the West Bank to Israel... remember
    1973??

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Apr 16, 2004
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    LBJGH Guest

    The simple solution is for people to stop buying SUVs, Pickups and Vans as
    commuter vehicles... increase gas prices might be good to get those
    dangerous SUVs, Pickups and Vans off the road. ... and no people don't need
    them unless they are trades people.
     
    LBJGH, Apr 16, 2004
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    Jen Guest

    Agreed...

    If you really want to hurt the gas companies and want to bring prices
    down, buy less gas.

    That means driving less, by a lot, or buying a more efficient vehicle.

    J.
     
    Jen, Apr 17, 2004
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    John Horner Guest

    This is an incredibly lame idea with ZERO chance of making a difference.


    John
     
    John Horner, Apr 20, 2004
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    Slade Guest

    At least this person has an idea. It beats sitting on our arses and
    accepting the gas hikes. Will it hurt you not to go to SHELL or PETRO
    CANADA? Anyhow, do like most humans do, nothing. If you're such a smart ass,
    what do YOU suggest we do?
     
    Slade, May 12, 2004
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