Don't want a Civic b/c it's too ugly

Some advice: Avoid the Jetta. VW's are unreliable junk.

 

A 2007 Accord EX auto is less expensive right now. In a couple of
months it'll be cheaper still (new Accord due in the fall). Higher
resale value and lower insurance make the Accord a better buy than the
Civic, IMHO. (Fuel economy isn't the only measure used to calculate
total cost of ownership.)

Civic Si: if you don't know what a LSD is, you're wasting your money
buying the Si. However, your insurance agent will be happy to
accommodate you. Yeah, the Corolla isn't pretty. Yet it outsells the
Civic. I put a set of decent tires on a '99 Corolla and it was a great
econo-car. Still, when Accord LXs start to go for $18.5K in June a
$17K Corolla just doesn't cut it.

YMMV

 

Some advice: Avoid the Jetta. VW's are unreliable junk.

The Jetta TDi has been more reliable than the gasoline Jetta. Most of
the complaints come from the gasoline Jetta. You don't hear much from
TDi owners. Check the rating: http://www.edmunds.com/volkswagen/jetta/2006/consumerreview.1.html.
Same as a Honda Civic EX of the same year. You'll also notice a
number of gasoline Jetta owners are mixed in that rating, weighing
down the overall, and it still gets 9.2.

 

The Jetta TDi has been more reliable than the gasoline Jetta.[/QUOTE]

Yeah. So?

And Rosie O'Donnell is better looking than Molly Ivins. What's your
point?

 

Who is Molly Ivins?

 

A dead liberal...

JT

 

The biggest problem with VW's and modern German cars in general is shoddy
electrical systems. A friend of mine spent close to $2000 to fix a bunch of
electrical issues in his 2000 Golf a couple years ago.

 

Yep, so very many cars are jellybean (term I use)/egg (term wife uses)
cars nowadays. Unfortunately style has been sacrificed for aerodynamics
in a lot of cases. The new Civic does look like a lot of those cars and
that's not a good thing.

Yep. Because I didn't want to spend more than $20K, wanted a reliable car
(and Kia, Ford, Chevy, Hyundai, and VW weren't as reliable as Hondas,
according to Consumer Reports), and wanted a 2-door (and the Toyota Camry
Solara was over my price range). My 94 Saturn SC1 has better styling than
my new Civic, but it's still a decent car, just kinda bland... I got it
in Galaxy Grey, which seems to help it not be as ugly as the other colors.

brian

 

....from Texas who warned us about W.

 

....and the alternative was???

JT

 

(Well it couldn't have been any worse so it must have been ...)

better.

 

Yes at the auto show VW told me the Jetta will have a diesel for 2008.
Looking at MPG figures in the UK & Europe I estimate a 50% increase in
MPG over the equivalent gas engine.

Now can they solve their reliability problems?

 

Just don't buy the first off if it is a new design.
Wait 1 yr for body changes and 2/3 yrs for drive train changes.

 

I'll agree.
Also Mercedes, according to CR the most unreliable car.

 

The Jetta TDi has been more reliable than the gasoline Jetta. Most of
the complaints come from the gasoline Jetta. You don't hear much from
TDi owners. Check the rating:
http://www.edmunds.com/volkswagen/jetta/2006/consumerreview.1.html.
Same as a Honda Civic EX of the same year. You'll also notice a
number of gasoline Jetta owners are mixed in that rating, weighing
down the overall, and it still gets 9.2.[/QUOTE]

I know a chap who works at a VW service desk and his wife at Toyota.
They compared notes and he bought a Toyota.
His VW boss was quite upset. He said I just couldn't face the problems
our customers do.

A few months ago VW ran ads saying their quality was now much better.
They admitted they had quality problems, now to see if they really are
better.

 

Nothing new there.
I had a 1961 VW beetle. The under dash clip electrical connectors were
continually coming lose, losing power to various circuits.
I fixed it by soldering all under dash connectors. <