Driveing in the fast lane

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by tflfb, Oct 19, 2003.

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    tflfb Guest

    How many of you out there drive in the fast lane ( left ), observing the
    speed limit instead of getting over to the (right), to let those of us that
    want to break the speed limit move pass you.

    I dread getting behind a mini van with the soccer mom driveling it. They
    think they own the road.

    In other word you are a rolling road block?


    If I see someone on my ass, and I am usually over the limit in my CR-V by at
    lease 15 mph, I will get over to allow the guy behind me to pass, unless I
    am turning left a short distance ahead.

    I always observe the speed limit in residential, and school zone's.

    Thanks
    Tom
     
    tflfb, Oct 19, 2003
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    tflfb Guest

    I forgot this your on your cell phone,.... telling the person on the other
    end your about 20 seconds from your designation.

    Tom
     
    tflfb, Oct 19, 2003
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    David L Guest

    Unfortunately it's not only soccer moms doing it. Especially annoying when
    someone is going BELOW the speed limit in the left lane (*passing lane*), or
    who likes to drive right next to another car or in the BLIND SPOT of a
    tractor trailor. Sometimes people who are guilty of this are also too
    intent with the conversation on their cell phone weaving back and fourth.
    For these people they need to shut up and drive!

    For those who think they own the road because they pay taxes, where did they
    ever get the notion they were the only ones paying taxes? Hey - I pay MY
    taxes too! I know there are many different people with different abilities
    on the road driving many different types of vehicles.

    I'm not an advocate for speeding since safety comes first. I will often go
    with the quicker flow of traffic (which is normally above posted limit),
    while other times I'm sitting in the middle or right lane.

    If people observed greater common courtesy and common sense the roads would
    be a better and safer place.... These are only my 3 cents worth. (Up from
    2 cents due to inflation)

    -Dave

    Let me get off of my soap box now....
     
    David L, Oct 19, 2003
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    Tony Hwang Guest

    Hi,
    So, lemee see who has more accident, guy like you or soccer mom?
    Who pays higher insurance? You or soccer mom. 15 over speed limit?
    I don't mind slow drivers, worst are those who don't pay attention
    to their driving. Yaking on cellphone, eating, looking at map/book/
    newspaper, etc. They are the ones who don't use their signal either.
    If I am doing the limit and some guy is on my tail, I don't move over,
    let him go around. But hogging the passing lane is bad thing. You can
    get a ticket for that.
    Tony
     
    Tony Hwang, Oct 19, 2003
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    Duran Guest

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with going below the speed limit in the
    passing lane if you are actually passing somebody. With reference to the
    passing lane hoggers, speed is really irrelavent. Fast or slow, they either
    have a reason to be there (passing someone) or they don't (not passing
    anybody, nobody in the right lane near them, no potential cars merging on
    highway, no left-turns coming up on the highway).
    I almost always set my cruise control at 5 MPH below the MAX speed limit
    (the speed limit is a maximum rating, not a minimum). It is amazing how
    relaxing a drive can be at this speed. I very rarely have to turn my cruise
    off even in midly heavy traffic because 99% of the cars are passing me.
     
    Duran, Oct 20, 2003
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    David L Guest

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with going below the speed limit in the
    Agreed, as long as they're passing someone or not creating a backup in
    traffic or if they have a reason to be there such as an upcoming turn. I
    only have a problem when the person is creating an unnecessary back-up in
    traffic and have a line of cars passing to the right of them.

    Yes it is the maximum legal rating, but having 99% of the cars are passsing
    you? I would venture to say it is safer to go with the flow of traffic
    rather than going faster or slower than traffic. I only hope you're not in
    the *passing* lane!


    -Dave
     
    David L, Oct 20, 2003
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    Duran Guest

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with going below the speed limit in
    the
    I agree with this also. Not only is it pratical but also safer to only go
    into the left lane (passing lane) when needed.
    I would agree with this also. It would be safer for me to keep up with the
    flow of traffic, but I just can't justify it. Just because 99% of the cars
    are breaking the law via speeding doesn't mean I should have to follow them
    in breaking the law. If I were involved in an accident I could be found
    liable if it could be proven that I was breaking the law by speeding. Many
    cars nowadays (not sure if Honda's have these, but GM's do for sure) come
    with information that can be downloaded by police / investigators that
    contain vital statistics such as speed that can be used against you in a
    trial (and there have been many documented cases where that information has
    been used against the driver in a trial - the famous Trans-Am accident in
    Florida as one example). In the sue happy reality of a nation we live in
    today, I prefer to err on the side of both caution and the law.

    I only hope you're not in
    Only when needed. There have been times where I have caused somewhat of a
    line behind me in the passing lane while I am passing a slower car than
    myself. The point is though I am using the lane for its intended purpose.
    The passing lane is not a lane for those who choose to exceed the speed
    limit and all others are not permitted to pass.
     
    Duran, Oct 20, 2003
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    Tony Hwang Guest

    Hi,
    Yup, left lane is for passing but not for speeding. If you speed in the
    left lane to pass, then you broke the law.
    Tony
     
    Tony Hwang, Oct 20, 2003
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    David L Guest

    I would agree with this also. It would be safer for me to keep up with
    the
    Ah yes - the onboard computers. They can either save you or hang you. All
    they need now are cameras to monitor the 360 degree space around your car so
    it could also look for other reckless drivers that may cause you to be in an
    accident, but have the other driver try to pin it on you. I see what you're
    saying though, especially with so many lawyers, ambulance chasers and
    lawsuits out there.
    **Little anecdote - A few weeks ago I was driving home from work in rush
    hour traffic. I was only going about 25 mph, but stopped harder for a
    traffic light. Heard brakes lock up and a car hit me from behind (she
    probably thought I was going to run the light). We pulled into the gas
    station on the next corner and got out of our cars - I checked my bumber and
    there was only a light scuff mark on there (mixed with the other nicks over
    the years). Her car was fine too. This is in Baltimore County, MD and she
    was a college student from New Jersey. Physically we were both fine but she
    seemed scared out of her wits! Very apologetic, etc... Checked under the
    car and opened the trunk to check the sheet metal by the spare tire. I was
    going to let it go, but she still offered me her phone numbers in case I
    later wanted to file a claim! I was shocked - she gave me her info but I'm
    still not filing a claim. There's a time to be nice and a time to be an
    a**hole. I chose to be nice.

    Hey - as long as you're passing someone else then you're using it for one of
    it's intended purposes. Another purpose is to create a bigger artery to
    alleviate congestion. :)

    Time for some zzzzzzs.....
    -Dave
     
    David L, Oct 20, 2003
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    David L Guest

    Rhetorical question: Wonder how many people in this NG broke the law at one
    time or another?
     
    David L, Oct 20, 2003
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    tflfb Guest

    If you are in the passing lane and going the speed limit, thats ok as long
    as I can go around you in the slow lane, but thats not always the case.

    Most of the time you are createing a rolling road block.
    Tom
     
    tflfb, Oct 20, 2003
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    Brian Smith Guest

    That's part of the art of driving, you have to obey the rules of the road.
    To my knowledge, there is not one place in North America, where it is legal
    to exceed the posted maximum speed, to pass any vehicle.
    That is also something that you have to deal with, because of the reason
    given above. It's sort of like the weather, wait five minutes, it will
    change.
     
    Brian Smith, Oct 20, 2003
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    E. Meyer Guest

    One of the aspects of the Texas Rode-Rage law is a stiff fine for anyone
    "camping out" in the left lane. They also changed the signs on the
    Interstates to say "Left lane for passing only" instead of the older, less
    direct "Slower traffic keep right", which didn't work at all. Now if only
    they would enforce it....

    In some places it is illegal to pass on the right except when the car in the
    left lane is stopped waiting to make a legal left turn.
     
    E. Meyer, Oct 20, 2003
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    Larry Guest

    Here in Calif, its a rarity for people to drive the posted limit on the
    freeway. Even at posted limits of 65, its very common for the flow of
    traffic to be 80-85mph and out in the mojave desert, I've been in traffic
    flows going 95-100. As a matter of practice, I satay out of the far left
    lane and drive the center or right lane a smuch as possible for a variety of
    reasons....1)to be courteous to those travelling faster than me and 2)its a
    proven fact that by driving in the so called slower lanes, you tend to be
    off the CHP's radar screen to give out tickets. Its also fact that if you
    drive in places like LA, where the flow of traffic is closer to 80 mph on
    free flowing highways, the police will get on their bullhorn and tell you to
    move over if you happen to drive the speed limit, but are holding up
    traffic, creating a more hazardous condition by bunching up cars. I found in
    Florida, the seniors drive 10 mph under the speed limit and hog the left
    lane....same thing goes for RVers there too, but the truckers all ran 5-10
    mph over the limit.
     
    Larry, Oct 20, 2003
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    Bill Freeman Guest

    Something not so obvious. Here in the NorthEast there are many
    older highways & roads that DO NOT have New Jersey-inspired "jughandles"
    that allow a right-hand U or left-hand turn. Instead . .. and I consider
    this a very dangerous design fault . .. one must pull over into the left
    "passing" lane in order to reach a left or U turn. Where this isn't the
    case I totally agree that slow & steady drivers should always pull over to
    the right into the cruising lane.
     
    Bill Freeman, Oct 21, 2003
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    MikeHunt2 Guest

    In Pennsylvania it is illegal to DRIVE in the left lane of a four
    lane highway, except to overtake another vehicle, even at the
    speed limit. The driver must yield, to the right if signaled by
    another driver that wants to pass, although passing on the right
    is legal. If you get caught riding in the left lane, except to
    overtake another vehicle, it will cost you $136. ;)


    mike hunt
     
    MikeHunt2, Oct 21, 2003
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    X Guest

    NO NO NO FOLKS

    Read the F* sign. Most highways have a sign that says

    KEEP RIGHT EXCEPT TO PASS.


    So KEEP RIGHT, DON'T HOG THE LEFT LANE
     
    X, Nov 27, 2003
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    X Guest

    Personally I think $136 is too cheap. They should up the fine
     
    X, Nov 27, 2003
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  19. Years ago in Australia, (where you drive on the left), there used to be
    signs on hills that read "Slow vehicles keep left", so everyone other than
    18 wheelers would keep right, because they "weren't slow"

    So the signs all got changed to "keep left unless overtaking". Worked for a
    while...

    Stewart DIBBS
     
    Stewart DIBBS, Nov 27, 2003
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    Tony Hwang Guest

    Hi,
    Can get a ticket for that.
    Tony
     
    Tony Hwang, Nov 28, 2003
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