E85 - oops!

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by bltravis, Aug 21, 2005.

  1. bltravis

    bltravis Guest

    We own a new 2005 Odyssey van. We accidentally filled the tank with E85
    (85% ethanol) last night. Well, not really accidentally. We thought we
    read that the engine could use it when we were shopping for the car, but
    realize we must have been mistaken. We only ran 18 miles on it, and it ran
    fine, but we don't want to risk the engine and don't want to void the
    warranty.

    Questions:

    After 18 miles, do you think any damage could have already been done?

    We are going to have a local mechanic tow it and siphen out the gas.
    Assuming there is no permanent damage is there any way the dealer would know
    we used it and thus void our warranty?

    Help, we are worried?

    LT
     
    bltravis, Aug 21, 2005
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  2. I wouldn't worry too much. The engine itself should be fine. The biggest
    issues with E-85 involve the fuel system - synthetic parts that are made for
    gasoline may have limited tolerance for that level of ethanol, but since 15%
    ethanol is common (and I believe the Oddy allows that) that isn't a big
    issue. If you ran E-85 over a period of a month I'd have more concerns.

    BTW - the "check engine" light may come on when you switch back to normal
    gasoline, as a result of the ECU getting frustrated with the changes in fuel
    characteristics (the usual trouble code text is "fuel trim"). Either have
    the mechanic clear the code or drive a week or so until the light goes out
    on its own... although that second method may be more wear and tear on your
    nerves than you want to go through at the moment!

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Aug 21, 2005
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    Your manual says you can use up to x% ethanol, right? What does it say?

    My CR-V will take up to 10%, so if you top up the tank again with
    'normal' gas, and then use up 1/4 tank and refill again, you'll be OK.
    Read the manual about 'topping up', and don't overdo it, since you can
    cause other problems, and a fire hazzard. Keep the Ownaer's manual in
    the bathroom, so you can all study it.

    'Curly'
     
    'Curly Q. Links', Aug 21, 2005
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  4. bltravis

    Eric Guest

    I agree, have the E85 drained or siphoned off and then have the ECU reset.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Aug 22, 2005
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  5. bltravis

    bltravis Guest

    Thanks, guys, for putting our minds at ease, and for sparing the time to
    give us the advice. We will have have the mechanic siphon the tank and
    reset the code if needed

    LT
     
    bltravis, Aug 22, 2005
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  6. ===============================

    Eric, you're missing the point . . . .

    E85 is 85% GASOLINE, and 15% Ethanol. The OP is totally confused.
    Canadians use Gasohol a lot, but it's not quite as high as 15%, I'm
    sure. It's not like it's going to be in the system for a year. Diluting
    it ONCE would get it below 10%.

    Question arises again . . .What does the MANUAL say???

    'Curly'
     
    'Curly Q. Links', Aug 22, 2005
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  7. Nope. Other way around.
    http://www.e85fuel.com/e85101/faqs/e85.php
     
    Steve Bigelow, Aug 23, 2005
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  8. I think it's the other way around: http://www.ethanol.org/

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Aug 23, 2005
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  9. My link missed by a bit: http://www.ethanol.org/e85.html is more to the
    point.

    Mike <8^P
     
    Michael Pardee, Aug 23, 2005
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    Bad mistake on my part . . Terribly sorry. :-(

    Thanks for the link.

    'Curly'
     
    'Curly Q. Links', Aug 23, 2005
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  11. bltravis

    Jim Yanik Guest

    I made the same mistake in thinking it was 85%G:15%E,found some websites to
    verify it was the opposite.

    It even makes sense,else why say *E* 85??
    (smacking forehead;DUH)
     
    Jim Yanik, Aug 23, 2005
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  12. bltravis

    bltravis Guest

    Hey everyone, Yes I did read the manual, actually twice now. However while

    reading material when I first got the van I read somewhere we could handle

    it. Of course can't find anything saying it now. Who knows maybe I dreamed

    it all up. ANYWAY.

    Just got my van back today after it was towed, and drained, and it is

    running just fine. The only thing my mechanic said was he had another guy

    do the same thing but ran his Tahoe longer than my 18 miles, and a month

    later his fuel pump went out.

    So all in all we are good to go for now. Will watch for any signs of the

    fuel pump, and never again no matter if we get a car that can definitely

    handle E85 I will never use it.

    It is this simple why didn't they just make the nozzles bigger than unleaded

    nozzles so they wouldn't fit in cars that couldn't handle them. That is the

    same way the old Regular was. Sounds easy to me, but what do I know I am

    just the crazy lady who put the wrong gas in.

    Thanks for everyone's help on this.

    Becky Travis.


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    bltravis, Aug 24, 2005
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