Easy test for worn rings

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Jason, Aug 19, 2005.

  1. Jason

    Jason Guest

    When I spent time working with a certified mechanic, I was taught
    that the easiest way to determine if an engine had worn rings was
    to do a compression check.

    While reading a Tom and Ray column in the local newspaper, I learned
    an even easier method of checking for worn rings.

    I now quote from the last portion of the column:

    Tom: However, what you CAN tell by removing the oil
    cap [while the engine is running] is whether the
    car has excessive blowby. Blowby is created when
    the rings wear out, and lots of combustion gasses
    sneak by the rings and into the crackcase, where
    the oil is stored.

    Ray: If there is more combustion gasses in the
    crankcase than the ventilation system can expel,
    pressure buildsup in there. When you remove the
    oil cap, you might see smoke coming out.

    Tom: That'd be a sure sign that you'd want to
    avoid buying that car.

    My comment: A compression check is far superior to
    the easy test mentioned above. It's my guess that if
    the rings were only slighltly worn--that you would
    not see any smoke when you removed the oil cap.
     
    Jason, Aug 19, 2005
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  2. Jason

    jim beam Guest

    the blowby test is not quantitative, but it is a very good qualitiative
    test. compression reveals rings and/or gasket and/or valve problems.
    only blowby indicates rings alone.
     
    jim beam, Aug 20, 2005
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  3. Owning an '80s Volvo leads me to add a caveat to the Car Talk method: that
    vintage has a valveless crankcase ventilation system. Regardless of how
    little or how much blow-by the engine has, the crankcase pressure check only
    reveals whether the crankcase ventilation is working right.

    As you say, a compression test is far better.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Aug 20, 2005
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  4. On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 20:27:07 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
    If the engine fails the compression test, there is a simple (shade
    tree mechanic) way to distinguish between worn rings (BIG expense) and
    possible worn or burned valves (much simpler and less costly rebuild
    head). Remove the spark plugs on the bad cylinder(s) and squirt some
    heavy weight oil right into each bad cylinder through the spark plug
    hole. Replace the plug, then measure the compression again (by
    turning the engine over with the starter). The heavy weight oil will
    provide a temporary seal between the piston and the cylinder walls. If
    the compression goes up, the rings are shot and the engine needs a
    rebuild. if the compression does not go up, there is a CHANCE only the
    valves are bad and a head rebuild may be all it needs.

    In modern engines, the valves are the most likely source of low
    compression, assuming the engine has not been run dry at some point.


    Elliot Richmond
    Freelance Science Writer and Editor
     
    Elliot Richmond, Aug 20, 2005
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