ECT sensor on 91 Civic.. Bad?

Discussion in 'Civic' started by Chris Garcia, Jun 8, 2004.

  1. Chris Garcia

    Chris Garcia Guest

    My wife's 91 civic is giving me error code #6 (ECT sensor)

    Does this mean that the sensor is bad or that the sensor is "sensing" (?)
    something bad...

    My guess is it's bad.

    Since I have no clue what category to look under at Majestic Honda to find
    the part, and hparts.com is under construction.. and I can't find my repair
    book for the car.. I was hoping someone could give me an idea of how much
    the part would run me, and how easy it'd be to replace..

    Thanks!
     
    Chris Garcia, Jun 8, 2004
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  2. Chris Garcia

    Caroline Guest

    I think the 1991 Honda Concerto engine duplicates the 1991 Civic engine, at
    least at the 1.5 liter size.

    For the c.1991 Concerto,
    http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/ConcertoManual/62sk301/6-100.pdf is the
    troubleshooting guide for error code 6, ECT sensor (a.k.a. on this page as "TW
    sensor"). This guide says it might be bad; it might not be bad, too.

    From the drawing at the above site, it looks like the ECT sensor (a.k.a. "TW
    sensor") is item 24 at the Majestic site, under "Engine Sub Cord-Clamp,"
    http://tinyurl.com/3dzjl , $24.16 + shipping from Majestic, at least for a 91
    Civic LX 1.5 liter manual, etc.

    Autozone also sells one for $24 and another for $39. You can search the Autozone
    site for details.

    Another drawing of the location appears at
    http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/ConcertoManual/62sk301/6-53.pdf , but it seems to
    me to be a little misleading. Probably best to go with the first two links above
    for locating the sensor.

    I've never replaced one, but if I were going at this cold, I'd
    - make sure the car's ignition switch was off,
    - disconnect the battery ground cable
    - try to disconnect the sensor electrically
    - drain the coolant below the level of the sensor
    - unfasten the sensor's mechanical connection

    Caroline
    1991 Civic LX manual 1.5 liter 153k miles
     
    Caroline, Jun 8, 2004
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  3. Chris Garcia

    SoCalMike Guest

    any way he can run an ohmmeter across the connection on the sensor
    itself, and check for some kind of continuity? probably supposed to be a
    different reading hot vs cold?
     
    SoCalMike, Jun 8, 2004
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  4. Caroline pointed you to info on it - here's some diagnostic info:
    http://autotech-elearning.com/uploads/226-qis_ect.pdf

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Jun 8, 2004
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  5. Chris Garcia

    Tegger® Guest



    Don't replace anything yet.

    There is a procedure for checking the sensor, but the best thing for you to
    do before embarking on expensive wild-goose chases, is to clear the code
    from the ECU by pulling the "Backup" or "Hazard/Backup" fuse for 10 seconds
    (on right shock tower, at rear of box).

    Often these problems are intermittent and the error may not repeat.

    (I had a VSS sensor error once a few years ago. I cleared the code and it
    never came back.)

    Your "ECT" part is also called the Thermo Wax sensor, and sends a voltage
    to the ECU varying with how warmed-up the engine is.

    If you have an automatic transmission, do you notice delayed upshifts into
    top gear? Any other odd behavior? Any corrosion on the TW sensor wires or
    connector?

    If the code repeats and you have a multimeter, I can send you the check
    procedure from the factory manual. It's easy to check.


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    Tegger®, Jun 8, 2004
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  6. Chris Garcia

    Chris Garcia Guest

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    I checked out my wife's car today.. it was really low (but not empty) on
    coolant.. strange since the temperature showed normal (she says) .. i
    refilled it and reset the computer.. Hopefully we don't see this light
    again :) If we do, I'll start looking for some more options..

    Thanks!
     
    Chris Garcia, Jun 8, 2004
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  7. Chris Garcia

    Tegger® Guest



    Watch that coolant level carefully every day for a while.

    If it goes down rapidly or the reservoir fills up much higher than you
    filled it originally, there are problems that need to be looked at.

    If the level was that low, it would expose the TW sensor to air, which
    would confuse the ECU. The coolant gauge uses a different sensor.


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    Tegger®, Jun 8, 2004
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  8. Chris Garcia

    Chris Garcia Guest

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    Yeah, that makes sense.. From diagrams I've seen it is pretty high up, so
    it wouldn't take much of a lack of coolant to confuse it.

    If it is losing coolant, I'll have to poke around and find the bad hose. If
    there is a leak, hopefully it's a hose. The radiator is only about 2 years
    old.

    Thanks to everyone who replied!
     
    Chris Garcia, Jun 9, 2004
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