egr system and ecu info

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by jim beam, Feb 4, 2007.

  1. jim beam

    jim beam Guest

    according to my friendly local smog check guy, 88-91 civics no longer
    need to have "california" emissions equipment to pass california smog
    testing - all they have to do now is pass the federal standards that
    were in force at the time. [can anyone confirm this?]

    this apparently means that you can disable the pesky egr system, or even
    get rid of it since it's no longer required to be present - a big
    benefit since the egr system is hugely unreliable. [on this age civic,
    honda evidently didn't anticipate the very low quality gas we have since
    federal detergency standards were decreased, and they welded the inlet
    manifold back up after drilling the egr ports. [these days, the egr
    ports are blanked with a removable plug.] the only way i can see to
    clean the port is to drill the welded section back open - a giant pain
    to re-close.]

    getting back to the egr, to make the game a little more interesting, you
    can't just disconnect the egr system from a california vehicle without
    tripping a code on the ecu, so the easiest thing to do is simply get an
    out-of-state ecu that doesn't look for the egr or operate it if present.
    instantly, you then have a vehicle that runs much better, shifts more
    smoothly, and maybe even gives better gas mileage [although i haven't
    tested that bit yet]. i know the first two bits because i scored a
    non-ca ecu at a junk yard today [$35], and have been driving it. all
    the usual egr activity has gone and no code trips when the egr is
    disconnected.

    interestingly, the new ecu also immediately set a code for my lockup
    solenoid that had been causing some concern, so i swapped that out too,
    the code disappeared and lockup is completely back to normal. i'm not
    sure why there would be no code with my old ecu - maybe there was some
    funky degradation in the output transistor. it was doubly confusing
    because regardless of the ecu, the solenoid appeared to test ok, but it
    just wouldn't work right. anyway, all is now back to normal and life
    without egr is great.

    ps. it's useful to have a backup ecu just in case of weird diagnostics.
    it's extremely unusual for one to actually malfunction, but it seems i
    have one that has, partially at least. current pricing being what it is
    for this older generation ecu, a spare is a handy, affordable tool.
     
    jim beam, Feb 4, 2007
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  2. Jim, would this actually apply to all pre 1991 model year vehicles? Or
    is it year specific?

    JT

    (Don't know why I even asked as I'm in TX)
     
    Grumpy AuContraire, Feb 4, 2007
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  3. jim beam

    jim beam Guest

    i believe it's all pre. i should google for the emissions ruling some
    time, but it's one of those things where if you don't know exactly what
    it is, you have to spend ages figuring out the right question to ask -
    i'd love it if someone knew what the deal was.
     
    jim beam, Feb 4, 2007
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