Engine wash

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Fijoy George, Sep 17, 2005.

  1. Fijoy George

    Fijoy George Guest

    Hi all,

    I recently bought a 1991 Honda Accord. Last week, I took it to this
    self-service car wash station where I had an option to wash the engine of
    the car. But, I did not try the engine wash thinking it might cause some
    damage.

    Is washing the engine good for the car? Is it okey if someone like me, who
    does not know much about cars do the engine wash? If yes, how do I do it?
    Just lift the hood and spray the water on everything underneath?

    Thanks
    Fijoy
     
    Fijoy George, Sep 17, 2005
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  2. Fijoy George

    jim beam Guest

    the up side of cleaning the engine is that

    * it looks pretty and,
    * can be easier to work on in the event you have major overhaul work to do.

    the down side of using a high pressure jet is:
    * that it can force water into the hydraulic systems - very very bad.
    * it removes any oily "protection" layer that can prevent corrosion
    [otherwise known as a minor oil leak]
    * it can force water into the ignition system
    * it can force water & grit into oil seals,
    * it can force water into the clutch mechanism,
    * it can clean /wanted/ lubes out of mechanisms that are supposed to
    have it like the throttle body & control cables, etc.

    some consider it the mark of a "good" mechanic to keep the engine bay
    clean. [my bay is clean too, but not because i pressure wash it.]
    personally, i like to see the bay of any used car i buy dirty because it
    shows it's not been messed with and i /know/ the hydraulics are much
    less likely to be problematic.

    if you still want to clean it, use a detergent like gunk, apply with a
    brush, and hose it off with a low pressure stream of water only. if
    there's still dirt, re-apply the gunk & repeat.

    keep water away from the hydraulic reservoirs.
     
    jim beam, Sep 17, 2005
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  3. Fijoy George

    Jason Guest

    Fijoy,
    I don't advise you to do it since water can easily get into areas that
    could cause you to pay a lot of money to repair the damage. For example,
    water can cause electrical parts to "short out".
    The best way to clean your engine is to use a rag and some cleaning
    solution. Clean just the top area of the engine and don't allow any of the
    cleaning solution to come into contact with any electrical parts.
     
    Jason, Sep 18, 2005
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  4. Fijoy George

    jmattis Guest

    Don't do it. Pretty doesn't mean reliable. This applies to a lot more
    than cars.

    Had an '84 GM that I washed 3 times with high pressure. Looked nice.
    Lost various sensors every time. $100+ a pop, way back then. I think
    the newer cars will suffer less damage in general, but you are taking a
    chance.

    If you decide to do it, use a non-corrosive cleaner like Simple Green.
    Wet the engine bay down with a hand held hose. Spray the Simple Green
    out of the bottle on the surfaces, more on the greasy parts. Get out
    an old toothbrush and maybe a bigger brush and scrub as needed. The
    parts that aren't too dirty will come out a lot cleaner even without
    scrubbing. Spray everything down with the water hose. Repeat the
    application if needed. No high pressure. Do this with a cold engine
    only. Never wash a diesel engine by the way, they're too finicky.

    All while you're doing this, avoid the alternator and exposed relays
    and fuse boxes as best you can. You may be able to wrap some of this
    in plastic.

    Then use a gallon of distilled water and rinse everything down to avoid
    water spots. Start up the car and drive it a good long while to dry
    everything out.
     
    jmattis, Sep 18, 2005
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    Jason Guest

    Hello,
    If the original poster is going to take the gamble--make sure you remove
    the air filter. REASON: If the air filter gets soaked with water, your car
    won't start until you remove the filter.
    Jason
     
    Jason, Sep 19, 2005
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  6. Fijoy George

    jmattis Guest

    Air filter removal risks severe backfiring. It should not get wet when
    using a regular water hose. Would need to replace filter before
    starting car.
     
    jmattis, Sep 19, 2005
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  7. Fijoy George

    Misterbeets Guest

    I have always washed my engines. You have to make sure the distributor
    cap is covered though. Plastic bag and tape. Wouldn't hurt to practice
    removing the cap and wiping the inside dry beforehand. May have to let
    it sit a bit and dry out from residual engine heat if it doesn't
    immediately start, so it's best done on a sunny summer day.

    Or WD40 followed by soapy water for the faint of heart.
     
    Misterbeets, Sep 19, 2005
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  8. Fijoy George

    Fijoy George Guest

    Thanks to all who replied. I am not gonna wash the engine. :)

    -Fijoy
     
    Fijoy George, Sep 20, 2005
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    jim beam Guest

    wd40 can rot your rubbers. be careful with it.
     
    jim beam, Sep 20, 2005
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  10. You did this 3 times? Ever figure out what was causing it?

    :)
     
    Sparky Spartacus, Sep 20, 2005
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  11. Fijoy George

    jmattis Guest

    Stupidity was causing it. Mine.

    It wasn't the same thing each time, always something new. And with the
    total lack of on-board diagnostics, the dealer had to figure out what
    was wrong with it, so it was expensive.

    I chalk it up to thermal stress (warm water on hot sensor).
     
    jmattis, Sep 20, 2005
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