external powered sub, timing belt, starting ?'s

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by ghostdog69, Aug 13, 2004.

  1. ghostdog69

    ghostdog69 Guest

    I have 2 ?'s if anyone can help me on my newly purchsed 90' predluse
    s.

    1. I was trying to hook up a powered sparkomatic sub. I don't have a
    manual for the car. I was looking at the fuse box for the power
    connectors at the bottom but did not know which one I should use.
    There are 2 power connectors from the sub and 2 inputs for power wires
    under the fuses. WHen I connected both power wires to both the power
    inputs under the fuses the radio came on without the key in the
    ignition so I figrued I better get help. Any suggestions?

    2. Miles are heading to 90,000 and I was looking to get the timing
    belt, water pump and the clutch replaced (I read these are good to do
    before anything happens). ANy idea what these replacements should
    cost all together from a certified honda mechanic.

    Also my prelude will have trouble starting (I have to press the clutch
    as far as it will go), but once it does it will run fine. Any ideas
    on what this could be?


    thanks
     
    ghostdog69, Aug 13, 2004
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  2. ghostdog69

    Chris Garcia Guest

    (ghostdog69) decided to join the conversation on 12
    Aug 2004 with message
    The spade connecters on your fuse box are all positive (+) leads. One is
    probably constant power, another is probably "accessory" power.. The
    reason your radio came is is probably because you created a circuit
    between the constant and accessory power by connecting both wires..

    To wire your amp to the car, I'd recommend going directly to the battery
    for power.. Don't forget to put an inline fuse(*1) as close to the
    battery end of the positive wire as possible.. The ground (-) wire can be
    hooked up anywhere there's metal in the trunk.. What i've done in my cars
    is unscrewed one of the nuts that holds the tail light housing, scratch
    off the paint under the nut (to expose the bare metal).. Crimped on a
    ring connector(*2) to the end of the ground wire, stuck the ring on the
    bolt, and tightened the nut back down on it..

    BTW, I've never heard of Sparkomatic... Sounds like an off-brand.. any
    good?

    Also, if you haven't run them already: Unless you've got some really high
    quality (shielded) audio cables going from your deck to the amp.. Run
    your power wires down one side (usually passenger side is best, since
    that's the side with the battery on it), and your audio down the other..
    It'll cut down on interference. I think.. Anyone wanna verify that?

    (Here's what the *'s are for)
    *1 - In-line fuse holder: http://tinyurl.com/3ztf7 .. You'll probably
    have to get one that's the same gauge as your power wires.. I have a 200w
    amp and 12 gauge does fine.. 20amp fuse should do fine in there, also. I
    think mine's a 20..

    *2 - Ring connector: http://tinyurl.com/6b2f6 ... Get two of them, one
    for your ground, one for your positive wire.. Best way to hook it to the
    battery is to loosen the terminal, take it off, and completely undo the
    nut off there, stick the ring on, and put the nut back on..
    Possibly the switch that tells the car that the clutch is pressed down
    isn't getting pushed until you push as far as it will go.. I had the same
    issue on my '90 prelude. It's better than not having that switch (my 87
    accord didn't), forgetting to push the clutch in while in gear and trying
    to start the car... :-D
     
    Chris Garcia, Aug 13, 2004
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  3. ghostdog69

    Chris Garcia Guest

    (ghostdog69) decided to join the conversation on 12
    Aug 2004 with message
    The spade connecters on your fuse box are all positive (+) leads. One is
    probably constant power, another is probably "accessory" power.. The
    reason your radio came is is probably because you created a circuit
    between the constant and accessory power by connecting both wires..

    To wire your amp to the car, I'd recommend going directly to the battery
    for power.. Don't forget to put an inline fuse(*1) as close to the
    battery end of the positive wire as possible.. The ground (-) wire can be
    hooked up anywhere there's metal in the trunk.. What i've done in my cars
    is unscrewed one of the nuts that holds the tail light housing, scratch
    off the paint under the nut (to expose the bare metal).. Crimped on a
    ring connector(*2) to the end of the ground wire, stuck the ring on the
    bolt, and tightened the nut back down on it..

    BTW, I've never heard of Sparkomatic... Sounds like an off-brand.. any
    good?

    Also, if you haven't run them already: Unless you've got some really high
    quality (shielded) audio cables going from your deck to the amp.. Run
    your power wires down one side (usually passenger side is best, since
    that's the side with the battery on it), and your audio down the other..
    It'll cut down on interference. I think.. Anyone wanna verify that?

    (Here's what the *'s are for)
    *1 - In-line fuse holder: http://tinyurl.com/3ztf7 .. You'll probably
    have to get one that's the same gauge as your power wires.. I have a 200w
    amp and 12 gauge does fine.. 20amp fuse should do fine in there, also. I
    think mine's a 20..

    *2 - Ring connector: http://tinyurl.com/6b2f6 ... Get two of them, one
    for your ground, one for your positive wire.. Best way to hook it to the
    battery is to loosen the terminal, take it off, and completely undo the
    nut off there, stick the ring on, and put the nut back on..
    Possibly the switch that tells the car that the clutch is pressed down
    isn't getting pushed until you push as far as it will go.. I had the same
    issue on my '90 prelude. It's better than not having that switch (my 87
    accord didn't), forgetting to push the clutch in while in gear and trying
    to start the car... :-D
     
    Chris Garcia, Aug 13, 2004
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  4. ghostdog69

    _chris_ Guest

    sparkomatic is very low end
     
    _chris_, Aug 13, 2004
    #4
  5. ghostdog69

    _chris_ Guest

    sparkomatic is very low end
     
    _chris_, Aug 13, 2004
    #5
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    Eric Guest

    Yes, it's time to do the timing belt and water pump. It would also be a
    good idea to replace the cam and crank seals and valve cover gaskets as
    well. It makes the job a little more expensive, but it provides a good
    insurance policy against premature timing belt failure due to oil leaks
    which can degrade the integrity of the rubber timing belt.

    Why replace the clutch? Is it slipping?

    Eric
     
    Eric, Aug 13, 2004
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  7. ghostdog69

    Eric Guest

    Yes, it's time to do the timing belt and water pump. It would also be a
    good idea to replace the cam and crank seals and valve cover gaskets as
    well. It makes the job a little more expensive, but it provides a good
    insurance policy against premature timing belt failure due to oil leaks
    which can degrade the integrity of the rubber timing belt.

    Why replace the clutch? Is it slipping?

    Eric
     
    Eric, Aug 13, 2004
    #7
  8. ghostdog69

    Chris Garcia Guest

    The name alone sounds cheap X-D
     
    Chris Garcia, Aug 13, 2004
    #8
  9. ghostdog69

    Chris Garcia Guest

    The name alone sounds cheap X-D
     
    Chris Garcia, Aug 13, 2004
    #9
  10. ghostdog69

    unix-freak Guest

    ghostdog69 wrote:

    The clutch pedal switch is adjustable. When closed, it switches ground to a
    relay that energizes and passes the 12V from the ignition switch to the
    starter solenoid.
     
    unix-freak, Aug 13, 2004
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  11. ghostdog69

    unix-freak Guest

    ghostdog69 wrote:

    The clutch pedal switch is adjustable. When closed, it switches ground to a
    relay that energizes and passes the 12V from the ignition switch to the
    starter solenoid.
     
    unix-freak, Aug 13, 2004
    #11
  12. ghostdog69

    ghostdog69 Guest

    Any idea what this is going to cost? I was looking to put $500 into
    it. What's a good price for the stuff you mentioned so I have an idea
    of what's fair?
     
    ghostdog69, Aug 14, 2004
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  13. ghostdog69

    ghostdog69 Guest

    Any idea what this is going to cost? I was looking to put $500 into
    it. What's a good price for the stuff you mentioned so I have an idea
    of what's fair?
     
    ghostdog69, Aug 14, 2004
    #13
  14. ghostdog69

    E. Meyer Guest

    For the timing belt/water pump deal, dealers charge anywhere from $400 to
    $1200 (US) depending on which engine it is and what they can get away with
    in their area. Independents should be closer to $400. If you do it
    yourself, genuine Honda parts will be under $200 from one of the on-line
    dealers.
     
    E. Meyer, Aug 14, 2004
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  15. ghostdog69

    E. Meyer Guest

    For the timing belt/water pump deal, dealers charge anywhere from $400 to
    $1200 (US) depending on which engine it is and what they can get away with
    in their area. Independents should be closer to $400. If you do it
    yourself, genuine Honda parts will be under $200 from one of the on-line
    dealers.
     
    E. Meyer, Aug 14, 2004
    #15
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    SoCalMike Guest

    id talk to an independant. i dont think any would be too offended if you
    bought a pump, belt, and honda coolant, brought it to em, and told them
    you "were gonna do it yourself, but changed your mind". they might bump
    the labor up a bit since they wont be making any profit off the OEM
    parts you bought.
     
    SoCalMike, Aug 14, 2004
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  17. ghostdog69

    SoCalMike Guest

    id talk to an independant. i dont think any would be too offended if you
    bought a pump, belt, and honda coolant, brought it to em, and told them
    you "were gonna do it yourself, but changed your mind". they might bump
    the labor up a bit since they wont be making any profit off the OEM
    parts you bought.
     
    SoCalMike, Aug 14, 2004
    #17
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