Figuring Out How Much a Hybrid, Diesel, or Small Car Will Save Per Year

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by javawizard, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Not only that, but since automakers have to meet a "fleet
    average" MPG, all buying a hybrid does is allow some other
    person to buy a bigger monster truck and eat up the savings.

    (Here's a memorable op-ed from last year on the topic:

    David Leonhardt
    Buy a Hybrid, and Save a Guzzler
    Published: February 8, 2006
    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/08/business/08leonhardt.html
    registration may be required)
     
    Steven M. O'Neill, Oct 20, 2007
    #21
  2. javawizard

    EdV Guest

    You are right, there's a way to compute Carbon emission per kilometer
    or something, Thanks for pointing that out. I'm not a hybrid owner. To
    be honest I'm guilty too, do I want a keep my money and buy a less
    expensive non hybrid car or do I my part to reduce carbon emission and
    buy a hybrid. I kept my money.
     
    EdV, Oct 20, 2007
    #22
  3. javawizard

    EdV Guest

    You are right, there's a way to compute Carbon emission per kilometer
    or something, Thanks for pointing that out. I'm not a hybrid owner. To
    be honest I'm guilty too, do I want a keep my money and buy a less
    expensive non hybrid car or do I my part to reduce carbon emission and
    buy a hybrid. I kept my money.
     
    EdV, Oct 20, 2007
    #23

  4. <rant on>

    Why izzit that every new catchword becomes yet another fad.

    Got a carbon problem?

    Plant more trees!

    Why izzit that modern day PC folk insist on re-inventing wheel?

    <rant over>

    JT
     
    Grumpy AuContraire, Oct 22, 2007
    #24

  5. <rant on>

    Why izzit that every new catchword becomes yet another fad.

    Got a carbon problem?

    Plant more trees!

    Why izzit that modern day PC folk insist on re-inventing wheel?

    <rant over>

    JT
     
    Grumpy AuContraire, Oct 22, 2007
    #25
  6. javawizard

    Siskuwihane Guest

    Those are the same people at the pump next to me crying about the fuel
    prices.
     
    Siskuwihane, Oct 22, 2007
    #26
  7. javawizard

    Siskuwihane Guest

    Those are the same people at the pump next to me crying about the fuel
    prices.
     
    Siskuwihane, Oct 22, 2007
    #27
  8. We call that the 'stupid tax.'

    Bob Wilson
     
    Bob & Holly Wilson, Oct 22, 2007
    #28
  9. We call that the 'stupid tax.'

    Bob Wilson
     
    Bob & Holly Wilson, Oct 22, 2007
    #29
  10. javawizard

    dgk Guest

    Planting more trees is a good idea and we're doing it in my
    neighborhood. But there is a limit to how many trees we can fit

    It looks like human activity is causing some global problems. That
    isn't really very surprising to me. We've dumped lots of stuff that
    never existed in nature back into nature. We've cut down most of the
    rain forests. We've pumped all kinds of stuff into the atmosphere.
    We've caused the extinction of countless species (yes, we could
    probably count them but I'm using the term to mean "a great many").

    And when it's pointed out that perhaps we'd better do something to
    protect the only planet we have and pass it on to future generations,
    we get all kinds of gruff. Well, fine, maybe we're wrong and there is
    no problem. Let's just continue what we're doing until it's too late.
    Maybe science will come up with a fix. Or maybe we'll all get wiped
    out or face a much more hostile environment.

    Really, why should it bother me anyway? I'll be dead. I guess I'll buy
    that hummer after all.
     
    dgk, Oct 22, 2007
    #30
  11. javawizard

    dgk Guest

    Planting more trees is a good idea and we're doing it in my
    neighborhood. But there is a limit to how many trees we can fit

    It looks like human activity is causing some global problems. That
    isn't really very surprising to me. We've dumped lots of stuff that
    never existed in nature back into nature. We've cut down most of the
    rain forests. We've pumped all kinds of stuff into the atmosphere.
    We've caused the extinction of countless species (yes, we could
    probably count them but I'm using the term to mean "a great many").

    And when it's pointed out that perhaps we'd better do something to
    protect the only planet we have and pass it on to future generations,
    we get all kinds of gruff. Well, fine, maybe we're wrong and there is
    no problem. Let's just continue what we're doing until it's too late.
    Maybe science will come up with a fix. Or maybe we'll all get wiped
    out or face a much more hostile environment.

    Really, why should it bother me anyway? I'll be dead. I guess I'll buy
    that hummer after all.
     
    dgk, Oct 22, 2007
    #31

  12. When it can be explained to me why adjacent planets are also warming up,
    then I may admit that human contributions, (which by the way amount to
    less than .5% of the increase in recent years), might be a factor.

    The loss of carbon conversion can largely be attributed to the
    destruction of the tropical and other rainforests and in that way, yes,
    we are a factor and one that could easily be reversed.

    But that does not 'plain the planetary warm up...

    JT
     
    Grumpy AuContraire, Oct 23, 2007
    #32

  13. When it can be explained to me why adjacent planets are also warming up,
    then I may admit that human contributions, (which by the way amount to
    less than .5% of the increase in recent years), might be a factor.

    The loss of carbon conversion can largely be attributed to the
    destruction of the tropical and other rainforests and in that way, yes,
    we are a factor and one that could easily be reversed.

    But that does not 'plain the planetary warm up...

    JT
     
    Grumpy AuContraire, Oct 23, 2007
    #33
  14. javawizard

    Josh S Guest

    Dream on!
     
    Josh S, Oct 23, 2007
    #34
  15. javawizard

    Josh S Guest

    Dream on!
     
    Josh S, Oct 23, 2007
    #35
  16. javawizard

    Josh S Guest

    Difficult to put a price on something which the affect of isn't
    accurately quantified.
    The Carbon Offset con makes it even more difficult.
     
    Josh S, Oct 23, 2007
    #36
  17. javawizard

    Josh S Guest

    Difficult to put a price on something which the affect of isn't
    accurately quantified.
    The Carbon Offset con makes it even more difficult.
     
    Josh S, Oct 23, 2007
    #37
  18. javawizard

    Josh S Guest

    You'll not know it's REAL value until you sell it.
     
    Josh S, Oct 23, 2007
    #38
  19. javawizard

    Josh S Guest

    You'll not know it's REAL value until you sell it.
     
    Josh S, Oct 23, 2007
    #39
  20. javawizard

    Josh S Guest

    The most effective way to reduce our cars impact is to drive less.
     
    Josh S, Oct 23, 2007
    #40
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