Financing vs. buying for cash

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Intrepid Observer, Sep 15, 2005.

  1. If you have the $20,000 (US) or so to spend on a new car is it wiser to buy
    the car for cash or take out a loan?
    One salesman advised me it is better to get a loan so you pay less for the
    car upfront in case it is in an accident as the insurance will only pay up
    to the current value of the car as used/depreciated. Was he just saying that
    to sell me a loan or does it make real world sense?
     
    Intrepid Observer, Sep 15, 2005
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    Frank Guest

    I don't know where you are from but here in canada, most insurance companies
    if not all offer a Replacement Cost Coverage for the car for usually 2-3
    years. This coverage protects your vehicle from depreciation in case of a
    total or partial loss. So even if the car gets crashed you get the full
    brand new value that you have paid. You would not loose any value within 2
    years.
    On the other hand, if you want to build or maybe rebuild a credit score,
    going with a loan might be good to show you're a good payer. Yet again, if a
    credit score has no importance, than I would pay cash. Why pay interest on
    something you can afford cash. For sure the dealer wants to make money thus
    they will have you consider taking a loan. I say pay cash unless you don't
    have it all.

    Thats my point of view. hope it helps.
     
    Frank, Sep 15, 2005
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  3. US. I mentioned it.
    Yeah, the salesman sounded full of crap to me.
    I have an excellent credit score from my credit cards - 790, but I have
    never taken out a car loan or loan of any kind.

    Thanks for the reply.
     
    Intrepid Observer, Sep 15, 2005
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    Larry J. Guest

    Waiving the right to remain silent, "Intrepid Observer"
    Your salesman is probably trying to make a nice commission on a loan
    passed through the dealership.
     
    Larry J., Sep 15, 2005
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    TeGGeR® Guest



    The wisest path is the one where you spend the least money.

    To determine that, you need to kick-start that 2-stroke motor inside your
    skull (watch out for blue smoke) and do some calculations.



    He's telling you the moon and Uranus were not in proper alignment for
    correct karma. Who's gonna look out for /you/ more, you or him?

    Use your head.
     
    TeGGeR®, Sep 16, 2005
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    Burnt@ut Guest

    What he's trying to say is pay the cash. It's much cheaper.
     
    Burnt@ut, Sep 16, 2005
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  7. Wow, what an asshole you are.
     
    Intrepid Observer, Sep 16, 2005
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    jim beam Guest

    questons:

    1. what rate of return can you get by investing 20k?
    2. what is the rate of finance?

    is 2 > 1?

    also,

    3. do you need liquidity?
    4. do you want cheaper insurance? [fully comp is your only option if
    you finance]
    5. can you repair your car cheaper than the insurer after an accident?
     
    jim beam, Sep 16, 2005
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    Eric Guest

    Keep in mind that a car dealership will often add extra points onto the loan
    and pocket the difference between what you're paying and what the finance
    company actually approved you at. Financing a loan at a car dealership is
    usually a bad idea. It's usually better to secure your financing ahead of
    time through an independent source such as a credit union or whatever.
    Lastly, in your case since you can swing the cash then you will be better
    off. Why give someone else $1000's in interest if you don't have to?

    Eric
     
    Eric, Sep 16, 2005
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    TeGGeR® Guest


    Bit harsh, was I?

    It's true though, you can't let the salesman tell you what financing method
    is best for you. That's like letting the fox convince the chickens that
    it's perfectly safe for him to come into the chicken coop.
     
    TeGGeR®, Sep 16, 2005
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    Jack C. Guest


    You're contemplating following the financial advice of a car salesman?

    Hey, I have a reeeeeally nice piece of property for sale in New.......
    er, Louisiana.


    ..... Do you own a boat?
     
    Jack C., Sep 16, 2005
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    TomP Guest

    That depends on which car (historic depreciation), price of the car, cost
    of the loan, etc... If for instance you can get a Zero % loan, then it's a no
    brainer. That is, If you want to have monthly payments.

    In a word: no!
    To go on, keyword in that sentence is: Salesman.
    Dealer secured "loans", "extended warranty", the little extras the F&I people
    try to coerce you into buying when signing for a new car are all a "BIG PROFIT
    CENTER" for the dealer.
    If you're going to finance, get the loan yourself from a credit union or
    your own bank, unless you can get a Zero Percent loan.

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    TomP, Sep 17, 2005
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    Eric Guest

    Another thing that I forgot to mention is that a large loan, such as a car
    loan, will actually lower your credit score. One factor in the credit score
    is the debt to credit ratio. The lower this number, the higher the score.
    For example, if you pay off your credit cards every month but then make a
    big purchase and apply for a loan immediately afterwards, then your credit
    score will be lower since you have increased your current debt. The take
    home message is to apply for loans only when your credit accounts are fully
    paid off. Another example is when you have multiple cards. For instance,
    there may be one or two of the accounts that for some reason you don't use
    frequently so you decide to close these accounts. This lowers your score in
    two possible ways. One, you've now lowered your total available credit
    which will increase the debt to credit ratio and two, you've also lost any
    credit history you had on these cards (credit history is also a factor in
    the final credit score).

    Eric
     
    Eric, Sep 25, 2005
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