First Oil Change Suggestions

Hello,

On my sister's 08 Accord she is almost at the point of her
first oil change. I'm going to wait until between 15-20% to change it
but I'm wondering should I use a dino oil on this change or a
synthetic blend before going fully synthetic. Also should I have one
more additional change after this one with the dino or synthetic blend
or will one be enough?

Thanks,
Nick

 

Nick:
go with the synthetic blend for the first one and then go full
synthetic there after, i can tell you that i have NEVER had any
internal engine problems with using synthetic oil with routine
changes.
also with the vehicle think about using a K&N air filter for better
engine breathing and about twice a year spray and clean out the air
intake.

 

Do it at 15% or less only..Honda can tell if you change it early, which
according to them it is if you change at 20%.

You can go directly to full synthetic and not look back.

I like Mobile 1.....whats your choice?

Peace,
Polfus

 

:

Think about it, then think again...
http://home.stny.rr.com/jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm

You don't "spray" the "intake", you swab the throttle body clean. The two
are not the same thing. And it only needs to be done once per year if you
drive a lot, every two years if you drive less.

 

With a Japanese car, unless you use salad oil-- you're not going to have an
engine problem.

 

I only use Mobil 1. I've been running it for years in my Integra and
my 95 and 99 Accords. I just recall in the newsgroup others suggested
using a synthetic blend on the first change and then going to full
synthetic on the 2nd. I wanted to find out if that was still the case.

 

Just wanted to say that I think thats a cool website for info. It mirrors
some of the stuff I've been telling people for years!

Even though you took it over, I still like it and appreciate the link...full
of awesome info. Much to read!

Peace,
Polfus

 

LOL!

 

Dino. Why pay 5 times more for synthetic when it is not required?

 

Have you done a double blind test against dino oils under the same
circumstances in the same cars?

No?

Then how do you know Mobil 1 is better than dino?

I used nothing but dino in my 92 Civic Si. I sold it with 120K on it a
few years ago; my nephew drove it for three years, then he sold it with
145K on it. All dino.

When we did the Blackstone analysis at 120K, it came back "no
significant engine wear and plenty of lubricants left; you can easily
extend your oil change interval".

Mobil 1 is largely marketing. It may have some benefits under some
circumstances, but in a consumer Honda engine it's a waste of money.
Use dino. If you feel like it, change the oil at half the interval.
You'll still save significant money while having all the benefits of
good lubrication and long engine life.

 

I wouldn't use a synthetic blend at all. Again....you can go directly to
full synthetic and not look back

I would only use Mobile 1 myself, btw...never anything else.

Peace,
Polfus

 

"Polfus" wrote

That's really got to make Tegger feel good... ;-)

 

"Double-blind" testing?

What would make you suggest this methodology of engine oil "testing"?

That's not very convincing "double-blind" testing, if that's what you are
saying *you* did.

!!!

Did you put your 92 Civic Si in the shop to have them inspect the engine
internally before you sold it each time? Get it on the dyno to compare
initial levels when new and the results before you sold it? How do you know
what it was other than just knowing that t he car started and ran for that
length of time?

You see my point?

Errr....how is that possible, especially when Blackstone Labratories tests
*just* the oil sample you send them?

I mean..they never looked at the car, so how can you say they said "no
significant engine wear"?

Can you prove that, and show a link that proves it?

That's not something I would be interested in at all with conventional oils.

I don't like conventional oils for the crap that gets in there from
processing, so Ill stick with the clean stuff.

And my original 1990 Accord has 192,000+ ( I just called my buddy that has
it ), and used Mobile 1 all the way. Still running, strong too, with not one
repair needed to the engine in 17 years.

Not bad, eh?

Peace,
Polfus

 

because if the engine is wearing, wear product is present in the oil.
the proportions are directly correlated. no wear product, no wear.
it's very simple.

with a honda, that's routine with conventional oils.

 

that's "m-o-b-i-l". no "e".

 

Sorry..my bad.

Peace,
Polfus

 

"Double-blind" testing?

What would make you suggest this methodology of engine oil "testing"?[/QUOTE]

Because it's a good methodology for ANY testing.

 

That's not very convincing "double-blind" testing, if that's what you are
saying *you* did.[/QUOTE]

I'm putting a counterpoint to your point.

 

Not bad at all; but you're arguing "post hoc, ergo propter hoc" here,
namely since you put 192k miles on your car and used Mobil 1, it's
because you used Mobil 1, which is simply not proven.

<not intended as a flame, BTW>

 

The consensus for the past few years in this newsgroup have suggested
that synthetic was the way to go. I would definitely like to see what
some 2003+ engines look like on dino oil following the new Maintenance
Minder schedule which can be between 5-7k miles. If you can also
comment on how frequently you changed your oil, that would help in the
discussion.