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Because it's a good methodology for ANY testing.[/QUOTE]

He doesn't have two of the exact same car.

How do you suggest then that he do a "double-blind" study?

Peace,
Polfus

 

None taken.

However, the original poster wrote the first "post hoc, ergo propter hoc":

" I used nothing but dino in my 92 Civic Si. I sold it with 120K on it a
few years ago; my nephew drove it for three years, then he sold it with 145K
on it. All dino."

I simply countered with a similar logic that I figured he might understand.

Peace,
Polfus

 

I'm putting a counterpoint to your point.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but I asked more questions than the single point you responded
to...mainly, about the Blackstone Labs testing results.

Peace,
Polfus

 

'01 EX-V6 with 195,000 miles on the odometer. Only using whatever dino oil
the local Carquest has. Don't change the oil till the flashing "maint"
light appears.

Only engine related repair done thus far is the EGR valve for which there
was a TSB on.

 

'01 EX-V6 with 195,000 miles on the odometer. Only using whatever dino oil
the local Carquest has. Don't change the oil till the flashing "maint"
light appears.

Only engine related repair done thus far is the EGR valve for which there
was a TSB on.

Not bad, eh?

 

He doesn't have two of the exact same car.

How do you suggest then that he do a "double-blind" study?[/QUOTE]

It doesn't matter.

Without that, you can't make any claims. You say Mobil 1 worked for
you; I say for 1/5 the cost, dino works the exact same way and gives the
exact same results in any modern consumer Honda engine.

I know that for a fact. All you know is that you spent more and got the
same results I did. You don't know if spending more gives you more.

 

John Ings passed away of lung cancer a short while after he asked me to
take over the site for him. He asked me to assume care of the site because
he knew the end was coming.

 

"Tegger" wrote

That IS sad, and we thank you for taking it over. What I was addressing was
Polfus intimating that "despite you taking it over" he likes it anyway. I
don't think he/she meant it, but it was languaged that way.

 

I found Polfus's statement kind of funny, actually. I went through a few
drafts of a reply before I decided to get serious because I didn't know
what else to say.

His reply reminded me of an old Dilbert comic where the characters had to
go through one of those corporate "team building" exercises. This exercise
had to do with being required to say something nice about one of your
co-workers whom you didn't really like. The strip has Wally saying to
Alice, "In spite of your leathery skin, I admire your co-workers".

 

It doesn't matter.[/QUOTE]

Well it certainly did to you, sir.

Didn't stop you from doing so

Its not 5x as much....but go ahead...

Conventional oils provide same characteristics as synthetic oils?

You serious?

Got a link to that info, or is that just your "double-blind" opinion?

Hey..think what you want...no skin off my skinny legs.

Peace,
Polfus

 

Thats terrible...may he R.I.P..

Peace,
Polfus

 

???

How you thought that is wild...

No..I know that the site wasn't Teggar's creation, so thats why I said what
I did.

Peace,
Polfus

 

Heh..well I didn't mean it like that at all..I just knew you didn't *create*
the site, so thats why I said it.

"What are words for, when no one listens anymore.."



Peace,
Polfus

 

You're a really funny guy, but lemme quote Tony Harding for my
retort...which you most certainly will be looking for:

"Not bad at all; but you're arguing "post hoc, ergo propter hoc" here,
namely since you put 192k miles on your car and used [dino oil], it's
because you used [dino oil], which is simply not proven."

Peace,
Polfus

 

Conventional oils provide same characteristics as synthetic oils?

You serious?[/QUOTE]

The end result is the same, so yes.

I repeat: in a modern Honda consumer engine, you're wasting your time
with Mobil 1 (which isn't entirely synthetic, either).

But if it makes you happy, like buying overpriced and frequently watered
down Starbucks coffee makes so many people happy, then go ahead and
float your boat.

 

The end result is the same, so yes.[/QUOTE]

Okay....I see you like to avoid issues, so I'll quit trying to speak with
you.

Have a nice day.

Peace,
Polfus

 

Okay....I see you like to avoid issues, so I'll quit trying to speak with
you.[/QUOTE]

no, not at all.

If the end result is the same, does the difference make a difference?

 

Nope. I never said I had that many miles because I use dino oil, rather in
spite of it. I've pocketed a great deal of extra money by not over spending
on my vehicle.

The reason many of us buy Honda's is because they will keep running by
putting peanut oil in the engine. If I wanted to spend extra money
maintaining my vehicle I would have bought something more exotic.

 

Cool ! If you change oil every 6000 miles, and if the car lasts 200,000
miles, then using Mobil 1 will cost you about $500 over the life of the car.

Thats not too much in my mind, so I don't mind.

My 1990 Accord is obviously almost 18 years old, so thats not a lot of money
spread out over 18 years.

LOL!

That's not why I buy a Honda, but I hear your reason.

Heh...no doubt. Like a Mercedes....costs too much just to schedule a service
appointment!

Peace,
Polfus

 

200,000??? You have low expectations. This is a Honda we're talking about.