Follow up from "91 civic won't start"

Discussion in 'Civic' started by Chris Garcia, Oct 7, 2004.

  1. Chris Garcia

    Chris Garcia Guest

    Strangest damned thing.. I get in the car, switch to the ON position, wait
    for the fuel pump to finish.. Crank, and it starts w/ no problems.. Idle
    was a bit rough at first (I don't blame it, it hadn't been used for almost
    2 months) .. I took it around the block and it was back to normal..

    Only thing is the CEL is on, and the codes are 6 and 16.. I'll be looking
    these up shortly.. Hopefully it's nothing too expensive/complicated to
    fix.. I plan on selling the geezer, and considering I just got laid off, I
    could use all the money I can get!

    Thanks!
     
    Chris Garcia, Oct 7, 2004
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  2. Chris Garcia

    Chris Garcia Guest

    Ok.. 6 is ECT Sensor.. 16 is Fuel Injector System... I'd be willing to be
    bet the 16 is because it's gunked up or something from sitting for so
    long... That code has come up before and gone away after a computer
    reset.

    The ECT Sensor code has been there for a while (even after reset).. I've
    been meaning to test it.. I need to figure out a way to degrease the area
    safely so I can get to the parts.. It's a mess in there.
     
    Chris Garcia, Oct 7, 2004
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  3. Chris Garcia

    Terry Guest

    Get some "brake degreaser". This stuff is very flamable, so let it
    evaporate
    completly before starting the engine. Before buying a new thremistor,
    be sure
    to check to see if you have the correct voltage at the ECT end. I
    found some
    damaged wires going to my MAP that had to be damaged during the wiring
    harness construciton. Back track the wires through each connector if
    there are
    problems. The resitance of my ECT was around 2700 Ohms at 70F. I will
    get try and look up the exact reading this evening and post if for
    you. You can compare it to the Air Temp sensor as they are very close
    in the 1990 and 1991 civics that I tested. This is a very important
    sensor! The ECM appears to use coolant temp as the primary variable
    for seting FI on pulse width. It looks like everything else follows
    something like this. Water temp, RPM, air temp, MAP, TA, O2, PA, the
    alternator loading (with heater fan and AC having their own inputs),
    then brake status. A friend is reservse engineering the machine code
    from a sick ECM. RPM is actually first but it isn't really a senosr
    variable because if the distributor/ECM can't figure RPM, the FI won't
    open at all. With all the other sensors, the ECM drops to a fall back
    assumption, that while the engine will run, it won't run very well.
    Terry
     
    Terry, Oct 8, 2004
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  4. It is also common for a failed fuel pump main relay to set a diagnostic
    trouble code (DTC) 16. The ECT is about 200-Ohm warm.

    Rick
     
    Ricky Spartacus, Oct 9, 2004
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