For SUV haters

Do Smart Cars have lower bumpers than Accords? If so, they wouldn't
be legal on US roads. If not, then they are crash compatible and the
Accord would not represent a threat proportional to that posed by SUVs
to mid-size cars.

 

Is someone forcing us to do this? We pay the bills because we want to
call the shots. If you doubt that, look how Bush cajoled some of them
into making a (token) contribution to Iraq and how they berated the
others for not getting involved in his foolhardy endeavor. Nobody
wanted to go into Iraq, except W. So of course we went into Iraq. If
the US military budget was $88B, this fiasco would never have
happened.

 

i agree.
being at the end of GenX i'm upset at the state of the world being
left for us. my generation will be seen as the greatest generation yet.
but first we need to clean up after the last 100 years of bigotry, wars,
enviromental and moral destruction. i am grateful for the economic
prosperity of this country however. but not at the cost of our freedoms.

my professor had to leave class early one day to pick up her 12 yr old
son at the city jail. he was arrested for sexual harrassment for mooning
a classmate and his teacher called the police. the boy has ADHD.

 

||i agree.
||being at the end of GenX i'm upset at the state of the world being
||left for us.

You are welcome

|| my generation will be seen as the greatest generation yet.

Well of course. When are you guys going to get started on that?

||but first we need to clean up after the last 100 years of bigotry, wars,
||enviromental and moral destruction.

Better get started. And remember the Law of Uninteded Consequences, which is
what got us all that.

|| i am grateful for the economic
||prosperity of this country however. but not at the cost of our freedoms.

I hope you are grateful that, by pure blind luck, you weren't born the 8th child
of an Ethiopean share-cropper.

||my professor had to leave class early one day to pick up her 12 yr old
||son at the city jail. he was arrested for sexual harrassment for mooning
||a classmate and his teacher called the police. the boy has ADHD.

Is that relevant, or did you just throw that in?
Are you bemoaning the loss of Freedom of Mooning?

Texas Parts Guy

 

The point - that you flagburners conveniently overlook - is that the US
defense budget is larger than other nations because we defend more than just
ourselves.

 

When it comes to finite resources there is always a conflict in that
respect... unless some new technology is found... which is not the case
right now.

So you think that your appetite is the correct one, or are you willing to
cut yours... and by how much? And what the hell does that have to do with
SUVs in Paris and a bunch of finger-waggers and head-nodders in their local
govt.?

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

The supply/demand "market" is fluctuating the price of gas... modulated
significantly by the futures/options traders. If you want to find a
culprit, look to Chicago BOT and other such institutions.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

I suggest you do a little research before spouting such rubbish. The
impact on world oil prices of the "situation" in Iraq is only a secondary
one, as with any regional, political instability. Iraq has not had a
significant effect on oil supply for a while now - their infrastructure has
been broken since Saddam Hussein decided to milk it for his personal
gain... which was only encouraged by the corrupt high officials in the U.N.

I agree with your sentiments on SUVs completely as far as choice of a
vehicle. Where we apparently differ is on whether they should be declared
illegal... in city centers or anywhere else. Even though that would
probably make me personally quite happy, *then* I'd start to worry about
when the finger-waggers are going to get around to banning something I
value. From my POV, people have the right to make stupid choices, even
those which inconvenience me - happens all the time.:-(

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

I'm working on cutting mine. I just need to control my desire for Viva Puffs :-o

I suppose the French bureaucrats only had selfish intent, but their actions is similar to
what
would occur if we really needed to curb gas consumption.

Pars


Just that SUVs tends to b

 

Those market influence would not have such an immediate and drastic impact on the
actual price of gas at the pumps. Given that there is clear patterns to price
fluctuation (price tends to be down every monday) it would indicate a degree of
control from the oligopoly.

Pars

 

LOL. Hi, I'm from the US Government. I'm here to defend you.

But now that you mention it, don't you neocons claim that national
defense is the only legitimate function of the US government? When
did defending other nations become part of the program?

AS for our intentions toward other nations, I already addressed that
in the portion of my post which you chose to snip. Let me reattach it
for you:

We pay the bills because we want to
call the shots. If you doubt that, look how Bush cajoled some of them
into making a (token) contribution to Iraq and how they berated the
others for not getting involved in his foolhardy endeavor. Nobody
wanted to go into Iraq, except W. So of course we went into Iraq.

 

I pointed out why the statistic was misleading. That's all. Why do you
Saddam-lovers always try to obscure simple facts with these shrieking
subject-changing rants?

 

This NG used to be a pretty good NG where we talked about Hondas &
related things and was free from the right-wing US political crappola
spewed across so many other groups; but now it's here, too. <sigh>

 

You have got to be kidding. Gen X is probably the laziest and most
clueless generation ever. And as for the environment, Gen X will forever
be known as the generation that couldn't walk, their mommies had to
drive them everywhere.

And in the interest of full disclosure, I am either a late baby boomer
or an early Gen x, depending on who you ask.

 

Well as an emm, older person, who also listened to my parents and
grandparents, I can inform you with some authority that the "state of the
world" environment-wise right now is a big improvement on what it was years
ago: in the days of horse-drawn carriages the major cities all stank of
horse shit and urine and as a secondary result were breeding grounds of
disease; in the first half of the 1900s most of Western Europe used coal
fires for indoor heating and coal-gas for cooking, heating and even
lighting; coal was also used to power rail transport. All of this made a
helluva mess which was quite visible on buildings and caused all sorts of
health problems.

Christ, don't they teach you any history at all? All you have to do, as a
generation, is to try to keep the momentum of improvement going, without
fucking anything up. It's a big job with heavy responsibility and to tell
the truth I'm not sure you lot are up to it... too bloody soft IMO but
there may be some hope.;-)

Sounds like you've been paying too much attention to the nightly gossip
show that passes for "news". The truth is not that easily acquired.

When I was young we didn't have ADD or ADHD. We had something called
discipline which was applied as needed and it was a great aid in keeping us
on the right path for all sorts of things... including instilling in us the
importance of correct grammar, punctuation and various other assets
considered essential for participating in society.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

But of course they do - that's what sets the spot price for any commodity.
When there's any hint of political instability, the traders start pushing
the price based on speculation, i.e. gambling. What??... you don't think
the gas station owner and distributor is going to check out the latest spot
value of what's sitting in his tanks and err, adjust the price accordingly.

Sorry, I don't think there's any conspiracy here. I don't see the same
patterns here anyway.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

look at pictures of los angeles from the mid-60's. it was a friggin pea
soup of smog, even with less cars on the road.

smog controls can be a good thing.

 

being of genX we don't have mommies...they were swallowed by the
work force in the 40s and 50s thanks to the wars. if, by luck, we do have
a parental figure they do have to drive us everywhere because now we
can't drive til 18 and we can't walk anywhere without being stopped by
police.

my 30 yr old brother got away with 10x as much as i could ever. what
was once mischief, your generation has deemed it a crime.
keep taking away our activities(skateboarding, night basketball, sledding,
etc
hell, snowball fights are assault now) and our parks...we'll make our own
fun
and release our energy other ways...maybe we'll bash cars for fun or go
firing
dads gun.

 

That reminds me, not only is Gen X the laziest and most clueless
generation, they are also the most whiny.

 

I am really glad to see that people have principles and place their
principles over their personal convenience.