for the guys that are into recreational oil changing...

so post it then!

so post your evidence! maybe you can teach us something!

 

where's yours?

 

enlighten us dude! cite!

 

does that excuse work with taxes?

 

"End of story" is a good epitaph for this rather useless thread. This
subject has been argued on this and other newsgroups for years.

You take the point that some are foolish because they dont subscribe
to your ideas about lubricants, maintenance intervals, etc.

You havent proved any points. You just keep talking, saying the
same old things, never with an iota of data.

It is boring.

Thread exited.

 

I have no horse in this race, but to answer your question about taxes -
yes - you can round to the nearest dollar (in spite of the fact that you
could carry everything to pennies). You picked a poor example to
support your case.

 

....without you contributing a damned thing! buh-bye!

 

so if i owe a few $k, that's insignificant compared to the national
budget, and i can "round down", right?

 

One of the problems in pissing contests is that each participant looks at
things from their own perspective. You bring up a good point there of an
exception to most rules. Turbo engines need the best oils for the high
temperatures. Exceptions also apply to the guy that travels a mile to work
in -40 temperatures and the guy that commutes 90 miles across Death Valley.

 

No, but if you owe either $0.24 or $0.48 (100% difference), you can.

 

Yup.

Clearly the Toyotas that sludged up were also an exception to the rule.
The question, then, is why. If it's a flow rate and temperature issue,
synthetic is a solution, just as it was in the turbo that had a flow rate
and temperature issue. If it's something else, maybe it's not.
--scott

 

From someone who has never even read the manual? I got to hand it to you.

Send it to Honda. May be they will rewrite the manual based on your
findings. If the manual says changing oil every 20k miles, I will be the
first one to follow.

 

wow dude - that's chutzpah!

eat your own dog food. do oil analysis. then you won't need to "follow".

 

No, there are rules for rounding. *Estimates*, however, are a very
different matter altogether!

 

FEH! Practically any weather around here is fine if one is dressed for it.

 

Sounds like a candidate for an electric fan to run after the engine was
shut off.

 

Oh, that, hadn't occurred to me. I was puzzled as what you werediluting
the oil with - fuel? Water? Thanks for the feedback.

 

Some turbo units were water cooled, some were not. The unit on my '86
Subaru wagon was water cooled - and I tell you what: You learned very
quickly that you didn't use regular old generic heater hose on the
return hose on that baby - it wouldn't last 2 weeks. It was like steam
coming out of there, and you'd best be putting *silicone* heater hose on it.

I dreamed about putting an electric circulator pump with a timer on it
that ran it for a minute or so after the engine was shut off, but never
got around to doing that.

 

It had one, and that was a big deal! An electric oil pump that kept the
oil circulating after the engine was shut off might have been a good idea
too.
--scott

 

Based on the question you asked earlier? That's actually a safe bet.

"honda have indeed done plenty of research and carefully written it into
your owners manual"

If that's the case, there should be no need to do your own analysis. That is
of course unless you think your research is more thorough and bullet-proof
than Honda's.