for the guys that are into recreational oil changing...

Silliness.

I keep garlic all over the place, and since I have, we have not had a
single Vampire attack.

 

Hey, all, let's re-argue detergent vs. non detergetnt motor oils, plus
single grade vs. multigrade? I cannot believe I'm still seeing this same
old crap argued so fervently in 2010. I've lived (and driven) thru all
these arguments.

Nowadays I drive an '03 Accord sedan w/5AT and I send an oil sample for
analysis every spring. 2010 will be the first year for an annual oil
change. Just for the record, 6,300 miles since I changed the oil in
05/09). Analysis reports show my non synthetic oil as well as I4 engine
are in excellent condition. I do some things non-factory: change oil
filter every oil change, change engine air filter (along with the cabin
one) annually, etc.

My $.02, YMMV, of course, and we're all entitled to our opinions.

 

Cool, definitely worth the price of admission! A guest spot on Letterman
for Stupid Car Tricks, at least!

 

What's a "drug"?

 

How about the CBC? Tegger lives in Canada.

 

This sounds thoughtful --- LET'S KILL HIM!!!

 

A nice, open minded, rational position. Hope you haven't spawned, dude.

 

Hoo, boy, where'd you get THAT?

I have a bridge you'll love!

 

Cross posting left in because I'm a dork....

A look at the oil change intervals for the new Fords coming down the
assembly line will be an eye opener...

FWIW, the lubricants "available" in America are likely amongst the best in
the world... low ash content for diesel applications and various other
requirements placed on engine oil (and other lubes) by the applications they
are designed for... If one is to be concerned about "quality" in any areas -
I don't think it would be with packaged lubes but with bulk fuels....
packaged lubes that bear appropriate ratings, at least (will SpamsOil ever
get an API rating?).

Back to lube intervals... Many of the new and current Ford offerings have
the IOLM (intelligent oil life monitor) system. Here
http://tinyurl.com/yek4bot
is a cut and paste of a message we got from the mothership (missing is the
page that indicates which model/engine combos have what system). Notice that
SOME oil change intervals can go as long as 1 year or 10,000 miles (16,000
kms).

There's some pretty neat stuff hitting the streets these days... including
the dual plug 6.2 Ford and the "reverse flow" 6.7 diesel...

 

Or divorce the bitch!

<j/k, I'm single, but don't believe women are bitches>

 

Dilution with what? <serious question, not trying to be snarky>

 

I totally forgot "the flip side of the coin".... An abandoned 2006 Fusion...
left on our doorstep like a baby in a basket.... 100,000 kms or so on the
ticker and only two oil changes to it's history. The amount of sludge under
that valve covers is still a topic of conversation around the shop...

The longer we extend the service interval, the more important it becomes to
observe it...

 

Not to me, I take 'lots of stop and go traffic' to be like driving a cab
in NYC. I have never driven a car like that and don't know anyone who
has. I'm also curious which latitudes one has to live in to drive
consistently > 90F or below freezing. I never pull a trailer nor do I
ever go off road.

 

As I said, if it works for you, do it. Does it matter what others
think?

 

In my case, it was the next statement. The idea that the people who
spend their time typing here, researching questions, answering questions
for others, etc., are doing so because they wish to justify their
laziness is rather remarkable.

If you actually consider "Vic's" remarks to be casual, I do not wish to
disillusion you; the world will take care of that in relatively short
order. But they were not. They were obvious misrepresentations,
deliberate lies. Bear in mind that I was *not* one of the previous
respondents, so it wasn't a case of me taking it personally.

Personally, I think you know that, and are a slightly more sophisticated
troll, but I have answered you as if you are not, because I surely can
be mistaken.


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen

 

True enough - but while the actions on your part are indeed a
preference, the folks who talk about the improvements to engines and
oils have something more than a belief. They have scientifically
conducted experiments. They have proof that they are right.

I think that's an important distinction.


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen

 

The fresh oil.


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen

 

In short-> It is sacrilegious to even speculate about hidden motives of
the Saints.

You can't seriously believe I'm going to read this and not think "You
are taking the comments as a personal attack on your belief system."

So let's say I change my oil at 8000 miles where does that put me. I
mean Heaven is obviously reserved for those that change their oil at
10000 miles and Hell is for those who change oil at 3000 miles. So where
do I end up? Purgatory?

 

We have talked about this before. There may be proof, and scientifically
conducted experiments, but evidence of these is lacking, especially on
this group. We hear testimonials, and opinions posed to be fact.

Where is the actual data?

 

Lighter cars and more efficient transmissions and accessories have made
the job of the engine less severe.